It's set by the community. It doesn't matter what others say, and the community is supposed to help each other out to prevent scamming. Prices also change. That's how it does work. Zone doesn't need to set mandatory prices for every single item and hat... There's no point in trading then. Someone might really want the xmas rifle, so they're willing to pay more than what its worth. Someone might not want it that bad, and is only willing to pay less. The price depends upon the buyer and the seller.

PS if you're selling VIP items for 15 ZC, I'll buy ;)

What pig said.

One time I didn't have ZC.

So I paid Pig like a $10 gift card... Lmao.

*I only sell them for liek 15zc when they come out and don't want the inven space.*

I'm sorry but players don't "help" each other unless they are friends. The people that ruin trades do it just to be mean, like oh now I want 50 more zc then what an item is "worth" I'm totally a scammer.

Not true.

I give noobs the old stuff I don't want for inventory space since 1) I hate having too much items. Males using the quickslot hard 2) it might be the difference from them staying on zone or not.

I'm sorry, but there shouldn't be a set price for trading... That would essentially make it like buying stuff...

I've started this before, if you don't like an items price- start a boycott. Not only has it actually worked in real life, it's occured on Zone multiple times.

Like dangos are now cheaper than before since people stopped buying them and made the sellers sell them for less.

Or how Amer bought like all of the burritos and sold them for a lot less than what he bought them for(hes the realest mvp).

Or how Amer bought all the panda hats and gave them to friends who never sold them so the price is like really high now.

Or how Amer gave away 100zc to like 15 people which has for sure influenced the economy...

So yea.

Ask Amer how to be cool k.

It really irritates me how players always go towards staff before even attempting to do anything. It bothered me as a staff, it bothered me as a player, it bothers me as a white male, it bothers me as a black female. It bothers me.

I don't wanna hear any of that "too hard" excuse

Amer hacked someone & stole all his items, soo

This is why zone is dying

Are you kidding me? It's a total monopoly the way it is right now, regardless of how cheap or expensive things are. It already is "like buying stuff."

It's a player made economy man if you don't like it stop begging for someone to give you an easy way out life is hard get over it

Well, in idarks defense, I play a game called Warframe and they actually made a site for trade prices, all items and mods have a set low and high selling point, and its a community thing and its managed very well. People will go strictly by whats listed on there. With that, you can still profit by buying low and selling for the max set price, but now theres far less of a chance of prices being raised by these greedy scammers that we just let run rampant and uncontrolled.

idarkness, this idea was already created and the trades admins either abused didnt do their job. This caused players to dislike trading. But either than that good idea!

People need to understand the concept of turnover. Profit is definitely possible regardless of average price statistics.

Is it a monopoly? I'd brush up on the definition... Or the game... It's only like $.10 on the Play Store... Go buy it.

Btw, wots the first part supposed to mean? Like if you said something about us agreeing the Illuminati, k. But I was just stating that pig and I are always on opposites sides and there are certain topics that we do agree on- since they're the correct standpoints. (not the best word choice but you get the idea. #AllViewPointsMatter) Like pigs the guy who's always on the staff side... I'm always the guy who just goes against the majority for the fun of arguing... But trading isn't an issue.

To say it's broken is like saying time is broken. Everybody perceives it differently. Everyone utilizes it differently. Everyone even says it differently. People do cheat the system. They overclock it(ba dum tss). Others underclock it and get less profit. Either way, you're still living AND THAT'S WHAT MATTERS!
(Sometimes I purposely try to make comparisons to things that don't make sense... But this was just bad... I'll remember to steer from time analogies from now on*)

But fr. Pigs a well known admin. So respect his ideas. I'm a well known exadmin. So like... Uhm... Tolerate my ideas? Idk. Do something with them. Like did you know that Shirley Jackson was happy when The Lottery was banned in Russia? She said that it at least showed that they understood the concept of it... So yea. Be russia. I'll be Mrs Jackson. I'll keep writing loss stuff which won't get any attention until I'm dead and you guys can keep rejecting me k.
(see now that's a good analogy... Imma write that down for AlbF)

No it wasn't. Trade Admins never did anything with prices. Their job was to be a ZP but limited to the trade room. They were supposed to look for people duping (which is hilarious because it's not like 50% of the people were duping items that would cause a need for 2 TAs) and try to find a way to dupe items themselves, since they were actually caught doing that prior to being hired, lol... TA was a joke position. Stefan told Tashkin to remove it because it was a pointless position.

And @SKT, well I disagree with the statement that traades are fine. I think the trading system is broken, but it has nothing to do with prices or scammers. It has to do with the items we have, and what's tradeable, and how people get certain items. Scamming will never be fixed. If you make a list of price points for every item, no one who gets scammed would use it. The only people who would use it are the experienced players, who don't get scammed. We put statues all over saying "say /clearchat to clear people's chat" for when someone was blocking an item with their chat, yet none of the newer players utilized that. I got so many reports of scamming with the chat, even though we clearly put signs out saying how to resolve that issue.

When I don't know the price of an item/hat, I stand in trades and ask for offers, I won't accept any offers, but I'll ask for a while until I get the feel for a good price. We can't help if people are stupid and impatient, making fake set prices on everything won't help that problem.

The reason I said the first part was because you let your arrogance get the best of you, like many other zone players. It isn't personal, so don't take it that way.

It has nothing to do with pig's ideas.

Honestly it wasn't a bad idea. Just poor implementation. Like I do think that there could maybe be one staff member who could specifically check the trade logs just to see anything fishy going on. But 2? Lmao. Especially the people who were caught doing it... And they got prizes? Lmao. Tash was high during that one. But yea, honestly this could be a thing for every area of gameplay. Get on ZP at the end of the day to like check logs on basing, pking, all that fun jazz. Would be hype out of skype. Would be greater than twitter. Wouldnt be as f****d as facebook. Would be as chill as soundthrill. Would be as ham as instagram. Would be as great as reddit.

Okay I'll stop saying things that almost rhyme but don't k.
Na I'm not arrogant. Its not arrogant when the president addresses the nation as "The President"...its because he is. I know I'm the best spammer. I take pride in that. I know I am annoying. As annoying as other Zonians? Debatable. But I take pride in knowing I'm blocked by about 1 in every 8 squad leaders in the top 50s list. Arrogance is when you try to enforce something people don't already know. People know I do the kekz. That's like saying Hanson is being arrogant for complaining about people blocking him. #Shadez. I don't take things personal. I take things in my gut and bury them there. That way when I die my starving children which I will never feed may finally eat and thrive. #FamGoals

This actually ties into trading.

Side note, if you're a trader stop telling me when I should and shouldn't trade doe something. Like help the noobs out. I have more hours than some of you. I know what I'm doing. Like that's actually smh. You're not my mom, stop making decisions for me.

There should be like an option in trades where instead of a PM you can click the head on the table to send an offer which literally essentially just takes you to the normal table screen but sends like a PM of it. You can confirm/reject from there and it would make tables easier to get/find for trading.

@SKT they didn't check logs. Checking logs each day for trades is implausible. It would take hours to see all trade logs for 1 day and you couldn't just tell if something was wrong.

But I do agree, Tash was high during that TA thing.