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DaScientist 11-16-2013 11:54 AM

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Posted by lord greg (Post 427949)
They are both useless. Sam can make guns but not balance them and Rec does nothing. Both should be fired and Meph or BabyGhost should be hired.

Lol true but I don't really agree with Sam being a bad admin. But for Recurve, definitely LOL.

Mejico Josh 11-16-2013 12:51 PM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 428105)
I haven't touched the mk23's and neither was I notified about their stats being changed, they were one of my favourite guns and there was no issues with their stats,
Once again ghetto before you start flaming people try make sure your information is correct.

Onto ghettos little sidekick greg, you haven't really seen any of my balancing, I tend not to touch the existing guns stats (which back to ghetto saying all i've been doing is nerfing things is untrue) unless there is a big issue with it, and most of the stuff I have balanced you guys don't even know about yet.

However I do find it quite interesting that on the forums you're both keyboard warriors but not once have either of you pmed me ingame about any "issues" you have with me, I always read my pms so I won't accept that as an excuse...

Hang on one second here. Do we have another era admin acting like an idiot on graalians? (Seems like since you all moved to era-go you just insult the era players that are still on here)

XSTARX 11-16-2013 01:30 PM

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Posted by Mejico Jøsh (Post 428112)
Hang on one second here. Do we have another era admin acting like an idiot on graalians? (Seems like since you all moved to era-go you just insult the era players that are still on here)

How is this making one an 'idiot' just cause he/she is an admin?
Have you seen or tried how to make guns or balance their stats? No.
That's the final answer.
If you're going to argue, don't do it here so.
I'm gonna confirm with this whole fake case- doesn't mean the admin isn't on or something you can't verify yourself doesn't mean no one will help.

PR's- will always contact the admin you need. Via PM or email. Simple as cake.

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Posted by DaScientist (Post 428110)
Lol true but I don't really agree with Sam being a bad admin. But for Recurve, definitely LOL.

RecurveZ made raffica's only so far I knew.
The rest I guess it was others.

lord greg 11-16-2013 02:32 PM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 428105)
Onto ghettos little sidekick greg, you haven't really seen any of my balancing, I tend not to touch the existing guns stats (which back to ghetto saying all i've been doing is nerfing things is untrue) unless there is a big issue with it, and most of the stuff I have balanced you guys don't even know about yet.

However I do find it quite interesting that on the forums you're both keyboard warriors but not once have either of you pmed me ingame about any "issues" you have with me, I always read my pms so I won't accept that as an excuse..


Balancing existing guns is what we need. AC, PBP and many other weapons need balancing out. AC is stupidly OP with knockback and PBP still is better than it should be.
Why should we be pming you about all these things when there is a forum or 2 forums that are perfectly good for that. You read both so that is not an excuse.

Mejico Josh 11-16-2013 03:05 PM

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Posted by XSTÃRX (Post 428120)
How is this making one an 'idiot' just cause he/she is an admin?
Have you seen or tried how to make guns or balance their stats? No.
That's the final answer.
If you're going to argue, don't do it here so.
I'm gonna confirm with this whole fake case- doesn't mean the admin isn't on or something you can't verify yourself doesn't mean no one will help.

PR's- will always contact the admin you need. Via PM or email. Simple as cake.



RecurveZ made raffica's only so far I knew.
The rest I guess it was others.

You have most likely never seen a thread with where an admin then comments on it. It turns very hostile quickly due to staff not being mature (he called both ghetto and greg keyboard warriors, you know not so mature)

5hift 11-16-2013 03:14 PM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 428105)
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What do you guys think is different about them? I used them just then and they seem the same as they were a few weeks ago? It has a higher fire rate than the deagle and more spread

Well now they have NO spread...

Which pretty much looses all it's touch...

Xraided 11-16-2013 07:32 PM

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Posted by Talon (Post 427979)
Why is the Era playerbase never happy with any changes?

Not saying the players are at fault, but everyone seems angry at everything in Era.

Because most of the things they change are better for the staff, worse for the actual players.

XSTARX 11-16-2013 07:54 PM

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Posted by Mejico Jøsh (Post 428149)
You have most likely never seen a thread with where an admin then comments on it. It turns very hostile quickly due to staff not being mature (he called both ghetto and greg keyboard warriors, you know not so mature)

Because there's a game similar to keyboard warriors?
Heard of it, never played it.
Fun game ever. Now then, continue topic.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 11-16-2013 08:46 PM

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Posted by Mejico Jøsh (Post 428149)
You have most likely never seen a thread with where an admin then comments on it. It turns very hostile quickly due to staff not being mature (he called both ghetto and greg keyboard warriors, you know not so mature)

The thread had already turned hostile after the first post

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Posted by lord greg (Post 428142)
Balancing existing guns is what we need. AC, PBP and many other weapons need balancing out. AC is stupidly OP with knockback and PBP still is better than it should be.
Why should we be pming you about all these things when there is a forum or 2 forums that are perfectly good for that. You read both so that is not an excuse.

Well maybe if you want your opinion to be heard actually say it rather than just bashing myself and rec in almost every thread you go to. The PBP is already being looked at as you know since you've seen the thread, and the AC would have been next, if you read the entire thread you would have seen where I explained that just changing a stat isn't something that just happens whenever I feel like it, it takes time because we need permission for touching older guns.

Back to the thread i'm still not even sure the mk23's were even touched by anyone, I checked their current stats and their stats on the dev server (basically for backup files) and they look the same as they have been since I bought them which was about a month and a half ago..

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Posted by Mejico Jøsh (Post 428112)
Hang on one second here. Do we have another era admin acting like an idiot on graalians? (Seems like since you all moved to era-go you just insult the era players that are still on here)

Well then i apologies for defending myself from false accusations (this isn't the first time from ghetto), anyone who does so, like me, must be an idiot.

Ghettoicedtea 11-16-2013 11:01 PM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 428105)
I haven't touched the mk23's and neither was I notified about their stats being changed, they were one of my favourite guns and there was no issues with their stats,
Once again ghetto before you start flaming people try make sure your information is correct.

how ****ing ******ed are you? do you even play era? the last time i checked, the MK23s had less freeze and had spread unlike now where they have more freeze and 100 accuracy. DAFUQ sam go ****ing play era and admit for once you were wrong, and i was right.

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 428105)
and most of the stuff I have balanced you guys don't even know about yet.

Challenge Accepted

you reversed three of mephs nerfs/buffs, scratch that, 4 as of now
Glock
M4
Candy bazooka
MK23

lets see, you added freaking knock back to explosives, made every semi auto launcher OP along with petrols.


The only thing you did right was buffing the P2ks. But they still are not beating BAR, and the BAR needs a nerf big time. Dont give me the typical "BUT WE CAN'T NERF A 200K GUN! EVERYONE WILL BE PISSED!" well theres a gun that can't beat it and cost 100k pks + another 200k, only solution is to nerf the bar.

lets see what else needs a nerf
BAR, increase spread to 2.5
AC, get rid of the "critical hit" where it can deal up to 12damage from being hit square on and being hit by the fire, remove knockback.
SOCOM, a small ROF nerf
PBP, increase spread to 3.25
Candy bazooka, M4, glock - go back to mephs nerf, they were fine.

and a buff
Assault rifle needs a humongus buff
Ghost M4 (nothing huge, just a reload buff)
Muzis need more spread
All single shot launchers. Should be the only guns in game with knockback and critical hit.
MK23- go back to mephs buff.

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 428105)
However I do find it quite interesting that on the forums you're both keyboard warriors but not once have either of you pmed me ingame about any "issues" you have with me, I always read my pms so I won't accept that as an excuse..

pft hell no i am not going to PM you, since my PMs would be too long and then i would rage quit talking to you because of the ridiculose "advertisement" filter (seriously needs to go)
Second, I would be PMing you on era-go but a freaking ****** named snk and a dumb ho named jeni perm banned me on era-go for posting something here and this website is not affiliated with era or eraGO in anyway.
Third, i would PM you here but your rarely on, and the only time your on is to defend the honor that you do not have.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 11-17-2013 12:54 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 428225)
Challenge Accepted

you reversed three of mephs nerfs/buffs, scratch that, 4 as of now
Glock
M4
Candy bazooka
MK23

Glock was nerfed by rec while my pc broken, I have not been told or heard of any changes to the m4, candy bazooka i did touch but that was just an ammo decrease from 10-5 via several requests, as i've already stated I have not touched the mk23's.

And the knockback was added by snk, which i personally didn't like and am pushing to have removed from the ac

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 428225)
Third, i would PM you here but your rarely on, and the only time your on is to defend the honor that you do not have.

Request an unban from Snk and Jeni, if you're sincere and stopped acting the way you do on graalians then they would most likely unban you. Before you retort actually try it first.

Also just a tip, adding more spread as your idea of nerfing isn't the best idea. A higher spread makes it ALOT harder to dodge. As for the pbp, though at the moment you can't comment go read the thread in weapons on era-go i made, i've given 3 alternatives to the pbps current stats.

Finally I'll get someone to check the logs to see when the mk23's were changed, I did notice a message in recs comments yesterday saying that the mk23's accuracy needed to be 100%. If thats the case then i'll fix it because the singles already have 100% accuracy and they were fine before.

Ghettoicedtea 11-17-2013 01:51 AM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 428253)
Request an unban from Snk and Jeni, if you're sincere and stopped acting the way you do on graalians then they would most likely unban you. Before you retort actually try it first.

yeah i already did and emailed jeni my terms, but of course, nothing happened. And if anything, i should be getting an apology from staff for perm ban on erago + 15hours of jail time for posting on a site that is not affiliated with era or era go in anyway

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 428253)

Also just a tip, adding more spread as your idea of nerfing isn't the best idea. A higher spread makes it ALOT harder to dodge. As for the pbp, though at the moment you can't comment go read the thread in weapons on era-go i made, i've given 3 alternatives to the pbps current stats.

not if you add so much spread to it that it cant hit anything. It would be best on pbp though as it would add in more holes to dodge unlike now where its a tight spread and forces you to move. Also it would eliminate the being way to good at long rang where your taking 8+ dmg.

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 428253)
Glock was nerfed by rec while my pc broken, I have not been told or heard of any changes to the m4, candy bazooka i did touch but that was just an ammo decrease from 10-5 via several requests, as i've already stated I have not touched the mk23's.

And the knockback was added by snk, which i personally didn't like and am pushing to have removed from the ac

Then rec probally touched the m4 cause when meph was around it shot between a bar and famas unlike now where its shooting as fast as a tommy.
Rec probally screwed around with candy launcher cause that had 10clip and a ac rof (still does) also keep in mind that rec was also a GA with you so his changes counts with you in my mind.

For god sakes stop letting snk make you all his personal biatchs and allowing him to do whatever he wants. Make him ask before making huge darastic gameplay decisions like this, or making major level changes (southridge)

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 428253)

Finally I'll get someone to check the logs to see when the mk23's were changed, I did notice a message in recs comments yesterday saying that the mk23's accuracy needed to be 100%. If thats the case then i'll fix it because the singles already have 100% accuracy and they were fine before.

Why cant you look yourself and save 3 weeks worth of time? Pc broken?

Well fk this era go even banned my IP adress, as a perm ban wasnt enough. Damn they get butthurt ez

xander 11-17-2013 03:07 AM

this is interesting.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 11-17-2013 07:11 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 428263)
Why cant you look yourself and save 3 weeks worth of time? Pc broken?

Don't have rights,
anyway looks like what I thought was right, the only change made to the mk23's by whoever did it was making it 100% accurate. I've readded the old spread so have fun?

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 428263)
also keep in mind that rec was also a GA with you so his changes counts with you in my mind.

That's true but my pc was broken during that time. I don't get why you were saying it was broken for months, it was about 3 weeks since I had exams around that time I didn't even bother fixing it as it would have been a distraction.

NeoZX 11-17-2013 07:41 AM

Oh god the war has only begun.

MK, this 23 is getting out of control.


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