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iHot 07-08-2013 05:03 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 382551)
AUG, glock, mp40, tachi scorpion, M16, famas, m416, Muzi, G36, pl9, shotguns, m3, Osiris, AP7, MK23, ACR, steampunk, m1 carbine, Desert Eagles, and K180s. All decent starters

A lot of the guns you mentioned are 10k+ you see I don't consider that cheap. What I consider cheap is 5k-7.5k anything else to me isn't even worth it.

Billy 07-09-2013 02:08 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 382536)
I bought the pistols. I suck with them.

Well practice makes perfect.

Edward 07-09-2013 03:02 AM

Arguing over what guns are OP and what isn't, isn't going to help anything guys. iHot was stating an opinion, no need to bash on him Sam. I'm not on either side, im here saying not to start anything pointless. Arguing gets threads deleted. Lets keep things on topic please.

Rather I should say he was suggesting.

iHot 07-09-2013 07:19 AM

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Posted by Billy (Post 383339)
Well practice makes perfect.

How the hell do I practice??

Myst 07-09-2013 07:30 AM

lol there should be a default gun and everyone has it, it should do the same damage this would dispel pay2win mostly.

Kenny* 07-09-2013 08:28 AM

like classics sword just a 8 dam gun but then wat about all the itunes

xander 07-09-2013 09:38 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 383578)
How the hell do I practice??

well obviously, you study how the gun works and keep using it.


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Posted by Myst (Post 383588)
lol there should be a default gun and everyone has it, it should do the same damage this would dispel pay2win mostly.


starter guns

ZigZag44 07-09-2013 03:03 PM

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Posted by xander (Post 383656)
well obviously, you study how the gun works and keep using it.





starter guns

he means, take away every gun except the "starter gun" or whatever Gun we'll be using, so the game is fair and not P2W

iHot 07-09-2013 03:27 PM

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Posted by xander (Post 383656)
well obviously, you study how the gun works and keep using it.





starter guns

Ain't nobody got time for dat!

Talon 07-09-2013 05:34 PM

Honestly, the game has been going in a pay-to-win direction, but it's gotten better lately. The thing is, Era screwed up from the beginning with their prices. We can't go out and destroy the guns to complete uselessness or "balanced", because that's what everyone paid for. If we were to go out and nerf the guns to be more in line with the others, then we'd get TONS of complaints and refund requests, and we can't handle all of them. Even if we did have some token compensation which can be redeemed for any gun under $x, I fear the majority of the players would still complain that having two "decent" guns is a hell of a lot worse than having one "god-tier" gun. I do agree something has to be done about the balance situation, but nerfing them in exchange for monetary compensation isn't the answer.

Green thing 07-09-2013 06:01 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 382874)
No the bar is not OP you freakin ******, and i have accepted p2w a long time ago. Just what really pissed me off is when admins decided to nerf jobs really making the game p2w. whats OP is the shotguns. Its not rocket science to just get rid of stacked damage and make the freeze rate a equivelent of a shipkia. It would still top the shipkia because of those 4 bullets and the spread.
Also dont add hit registration timer, it does absolutly nothing, just nerf the ROF.

I honestly think you dont have the balls to nerf the shotgun for that reason of ERMAGERD ERA SCAMMED ME BY NERFING PBP cry cry cry. GIMEH MEH REFUND OR I QUIT.

Grow some goddamn balls and go against authority if its for the better of the people.

Why should a 125k gun be nerfed?

Fatality 07-09-2013 06:57 PM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 382776)
Sorry mate but i wasn't the one who decided to bring in the bar, pbp, and shipka all ranged over 100k. You cant sit here complaining that we're not nerfing them because we want to keep the game p2w its because if i was to go out an nerf the bar right now, youd probably see 300 new accounts made on era-go tomorrow of people whining for refunds saying that we "scammed them". Personally i don't even think the bar is op, over priced of anything, i rarely find it a problem when i base or spar, i have it and i don't even use it because i prefer to use the neo rifle or the aug. The only gun i find OP at the moment is the PBP but what more can we do to fix it. We've nerfed the fire rate, the damage, the hit registration, any more and people will be asking for it to be buffed again. We can't remove the stacked damage because theres half for and against.

Also would you rather we didn't update existing guns since it seems to "ruin the game for you" because we're busy trying to improve small aspects of the game for others.

Honestly I'm almost sick of reading your posts, everyone of them is about you.

First part of this is def correct because I used to speak with Meph often when he was GA. You cant just simply nerf BAR and PBP into the ground because people payed 200k (60-70$ USD+) for that OP gun. Nerfing them into the ground (Also making guns 10k the same tier as them) would basically be scamming people. Blame whoever added the BAR, PBP, etc in the first place. The current staff really can't do much to fix it. Although I don't really like the idea of auction guns being added and being very strong (mp7, Souizen, Raffica). These items are often very expensive and very few people get access to them.

ZigZag44 07-09-2013 07:15 PM

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Posted by Talon (Post 383786)
Honestly, the game has been going in a pay-to-win direction, but it's gotten better lately. The thing is, Era screwed up from the beginning with their prices. We can't go out and destroy the guns to complete uselessness or "balanced", because that's what everyone paid for. If we were to go out and nerf the guns to be more in line with the others, then we'd get TONS of complaints and refund requests, and we can't handle all of them. Even if we did have some token compensation which can be redeemed for any gun under $x, I fear the majority of the players would still complain that having two "decent" guns is a hell of a lot worse than having one "god-tier" gun. I do agree something has to be done about the balance situation, but nerfing them in exchange for monetary compensation isn't the answer.

i got an idea :O

just refund everyones gralats...example: Boy 1 bought PBP and BAR...*admins refund*....Boy 1 now has (200k + 125k = 325k) 325,000G :)

Fatality 07-09-2013 07:21 PM

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Posted by ZigZag44 (Post 383831)
i got an idea :O

just refund everyones gralats...example: Boy 1 bought PBP and BAR...*admins refund*....Boy 1 now has (200k + 125k = 325k) 325,000G :)

325k Is a ton which would make the company earn little profit which they wont do.

ZigZag44 07-09-2013 07:29 PM

325k is alot, which is what the players spent,

its always about the company earning money?


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