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PigParty 04-23-2016 07:28 PM

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Posted by Yog (Post 697993)
Why can't you get the **** out of another person's business and what they do with their body?

Because it affects others. Why can't you handle yourself? I'm pretty sure many things don't affect me that people do, but it doesn't mean it still isn't wrong or that I disagree with it. I have every right to believe what I want, and to express those beliefs. Since it's not my business, should I not express my belief that transgender people should have equal rights? You've got a lot to learn in life if you think no one can have an opinion on a topic that doesn't directly affect them.

Abortion has nothing to do with the woman's body (unless it affects/threatens their health) but everything to do with the life of the baby, the mother, and the father.

Yog 04-23-2016 07:31 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 697997)
Because it affects others.

Okay, once you're the one that helped conceived that baby, you'll get a say. Otherwise kindly go force your beliefs somewhere else.

PigParty 04-23-2016 07:32 PM

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Posted by Yog (Post 697999)
Okay, once you're the one that helped conceived that baby, you'll get a say. Otherwise kindly go force your beliefs somewhere else.

Or you could act mature for your age and accept that others have different opinons, and if you really can't stand my opinions, you can not look at my posts, or this thread in general if you choose. Now you're derailing this thread, and I'm done helping. I'll post here as often as I want about my political beliefs, I'm done going off-topic with personal attacks like you continue to do, though.

Yog 04-23-2016 07:33 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 698000)
Or you could act mature for your age and accept that others have different opinons

My opinion is you need to get your nose out of other peoples business. Why can't you accept that???

CM 04-23-2016 07:39 PM

Although I don't agree with abortion, I agree that people need to understand that you can't force somebody to think like you and ultimately it's their life, not yours, so it's best to just stay out of their business since, in the end, you aren't affected by their decisions.

Bryan* 04-23-2016 07:55 PM

So which candidate has the best chance of fixing our educational / economical / immigration issues?

Yog 04-23-2016 07:57 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 698009)
So which candidate has the best chance of fixing our educational / economical / immigration issues?

It would depend on what you think the issues are.

PigParty 04-23-2016 08:00 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 698009)
So which candidate has the best chance of fixing our educational / economical / immigration issues?

Education? That's a tough one. Hard to tell which direction in education is the best way. I think school competition could be good, but could also backfire and force certain people into bad schools. I have no idea for a candidate on that issue.

Economics? I know people hate this, but... Trump. He knows how to run a business, and a large business at that.

Immigration? It depends what you mean by "fix." Get rid of illegal immigrants? Make them citizens? I'm not sure if Democrats (or Republicans to a degree) have any idea on future preventative measures, which is the most important thing, so we don't have this problem again in the future. I personally liked John Kasich's idea for how to handle the immigration issue.

Thallen 04-23-2016 08:00 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 698009)
So which candidate has the best chance of fixing our educational / economical / immigration issues?

You mean the important issues? I don't even know why some people are so passionate about abortion, gay marriage, marijuana legalization, etc. Even if you're a pregnant, lesbian pothead, these issues are still going to be left up to the state. I really don't care about any of the candidates' personal opinions, I care about how they're going to fix real problems. I get it if you're a rape victim who wants to be granted an abortion, but just because a candidate doesn't support abortion doesn't mean they're going to make it illegal for you.

IMO, Trump would do best on the economy and immigration and that's not even close. Sanders would do "best" on education, but it'd come at a huge expense.

Crono 04-23-2016 08:27 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 697923)
That statement shows to me how non-credible you are.

You do realize the part I quoted actually goes to show how non-credible you are, right? I'm almost convinced that you're trolling but I can never be sure.

PigParty 04-23-2016 08:32 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 698012)
You mean the important issues? I don't even know why some people are so passionate about abortion, gay marriage, marijuana legalization, etc. Even if you're a pregnant, lesbian pothead, these issues are still going to be left up to the state. I really don't care about any of the candidates' personal opinions, I care about how they're going to fix real problems. I get it if you're a rape victim who wants to be granted an abortion, but just because a candidate doesn't support abortion doesn't mean they're going to make it illegal for you.

IMO, Trump would do best on the economy and immigration and that's not even close. Sanders would do "best" on education, but it'd come at a huge expense.

The problem is it usually does end up to be a national issue. Many times they'll go to the courts, and work their way up from local, all the way to the supreme court. The next big issue will probably be which bathroom/locker room facilities transgender people use. No doubt that marijuana will eventually work its way up to the Supreme Court too. Abortion is also in the courts and will be ruled on by quite a bit of lower courts, with everyone appealing higher until they get to the Supreme Court.

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Posted by Crono (Post 698027)
You do realize the part I quoted actually goes to show how non-credible you are, right? I'm almost convinced that you're trolling but I can never be sure.

Science involves themselves with topics they don't have actual facts about. You can find plenty of examples in Google, I don't need to argue it.

P1 04-23-2016 08:35 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 698030)
Science involves themselves with topics they don't have actual facts about. You can find plenty of examples in Google, I don't need to argue it.

LMFAO, dead.

Kuz 04-23-2016 08:44 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 697468)

Someone talked about Sanders not sending military and some stuff? I think what we're doing right now is pathetic, as it pertains to ISIS. I would have every military air vehicle up in the air, dropping bombs nonstop on known ISIS locations. I would send the entire military to surround those locations and go in after it's bombed to oblivion to get rid of the few roaches that did survive. The whole crisis can be ended in a very short amount of time. I see it as if you outnumber the opponent by such a great ratio, there won't be much of a war to begin with.

Was en route to reading all the posts till I stumbled across this ^^.

You do realize ISIS is already hugely outnumbered. The problem is though they hide amongst civillians just like the Viet Cong did in Vietnam. You're going to destroy numerous countries all which have any sort of ISIS influence just to destroy a group of terrorists?

That'll do more bad than good. Civillain casualties+Land being destroyed+Countries being ruined long-term etc.

Atleast now you know that dealing with the ISIS situation isn't as easy as you think it is.

PigParty 04-23-2016 08:54 PM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 698036)
Was en route to reading all the posts till I stumbled across this ^^.

You do realize ISIS is already hugely outnumbered. The problem is though they hide amongst civillians just like the Viet Cong did in Vietnam. You're going to destroy numerous countries all which have any sort of ISIS influence just to destroy a group of terrorists?

That'll do more bad than good. Civillain casualties+Land being destroyed+Countries being ruined long-term etc.

Atleast now you know that dealing with the ISIS situation isn't as easy as you think it is.

Not criticizing you, because you haven't read far enough ahead, but we did cover the complexity of the issue, and I stated in more detail how going about it should happen.

As for science: http://www.sify.com/news/top-10-scie...sqeghcisi.html
Science is about discovery and always learning more. Many things they claim to know at some point in time are proven wrong.

As for abortion. I'm not bringing up that argument again, but here is a good article to read to come up with a better-educates opinion on abortion and when the cutoff point should be, if any.
http://thebrainbank.scienceblog.com/...ortion-debate/
And an article with a different viewpoint: http://www.nrlc.org/uploads/factshee...UnbornPain.pdf

Yog 04-23-2016 09:10 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 698038)
As for science: http://www.sify.com/news/top-10-scie...sqeghcisi.html
Science is about discovery and always learning more. Many things they claim to know at some point in time are proven wrong.

There's a reason they call them "theories" and not facts, you freaking swine.


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