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may.oreo 02-22-2016 02:46 AM

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Posted by James205 (Post 676556)
Because that's what the conversation is about bro <3


But the conversation ended about it :0 <3 everybody left it behind now it's your turn fam

James205 02-22-2016 02:46 AM

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Posted by may.oreo (Post 676558)
But the conversation ended about it :0 <3 everybody left it behind now it's your turn fam

No it hasn't?

Sarah_ 02-22-2016 02:47 AM

I never said that we will win, it's a "prediction" and even if we lose its not a big deal.
You didn't comment on VIS predicting themselves.

Relic 02-22-2016 02:47 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 676545)
Pretty sure Sarah is good with physics so maybe she can discover a breakthrough in quantum entanglement and make quantum internet a reality and then all European and Asian players can get 1-10 ping to the server in Texas

Me and Sarah have talked about this on player for a laugh, LMAO. Theoretically possible but It's a hell of a long way off.

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 676546)
@ relic how's that possible that you say you have only seen me NOT lagging twice and then say I rarely lag? Lag= warp and my screen is clear 90% of the time so no way I'm warping.

2 different kinds of lag: warp and delay. You delay, which is easier to deal with if It's consistent and how far behind you are isn't constantly changing, which is your case. I've only seen you warp a handful of times.

meganey98 02-22-2016 03:02 AM

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Posted by Saber Alumba (Post 676542)
As amazing as this would make gst for everyone , I don't think they wouldn't do it

Lol Double negative okay.

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Posted by may.oreo (Post 676539)
Highly doubt that lol, someone told me they put money into the servers doubt that they would put money into another one if they can't even take care of the ours

Wth are you talking about? Lol

Darkk 02-22-2016 03:40 AM

I've suggested this before, a lag cap for sparring. To account for the server lag we can fluctuate the cap with relations to the amount of people online. This can be accomplished by taking a survey of peoples average ms and then the ms they have when 4000+ people are online.
People with 'hitboxes' that aren't even close to their characters (really bad delay) and have constant lag ruins the idevice tournament. The excessive lag disqualification rule needs to be properly implemented.

may.oreo 02-22-2016 03:42 AM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 676573)
I've suggested this before, a lag cap for sparring. To account for the server lag we can fluctuate the cap with relations to the amount of people online. This can be accomplished by taking a survey of peoples average ms and then the ms they have when 4000+ people are online.

People with 'hitboxes' that aren't even close to their characters (really bad delay) and have constant lag ruins the idevice tournament. The excessive lag disqualification rule needs to be properly implemented.


In my opinion ms is useless some people have 700+ ms and have no lag what so ever and other times I have 100+ ms and feel a **** ton of lag sometimes

Darkk 02-22-2016 03:47 AM

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Posted by may.oreo (Post 676574)
In my opinion ms is useless some people have 700+ ms and have no lag what so ever and other times I have 100+ ms and feel a **** ton of lag sometimes

That makes sense. Maybe for example, Americans over 100ms dq and Australians over 200ms disqualify. Probably to difficult. Anyways, anyone excessively warping and/or disconnecting should be removed from the gst.

may.oreo 02-22-2016 03:48 AM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 676576)
That makes sense. Maybe for example, Americans over 100ms dq and Australians over 200ms disqualify. Probably to difficult. Anyways, anyone excessively warping and/or disconnecting should be removed from the gst.


Agreed

alexx 02-22-2016 04:57 AM

Lag cap doesn't seem to sort any of your problems, since the main purpose of this would be for gsts they should (if they put one in) make it a resonable ms concidering it's the GST there bound to be 4.5k+ So obviously there will be fluctuating lag (350-400ms is resonable) and I'm guessing the main point of this lag cap is to dq people like Sarah for delaying who usually sits on 250ms, so this wouldn't even help with that situation, the only thing it would help with is people who are frozen and lagging a lot which if that's the case seems like a good idea.

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Posted by Darkk (Post 676576)
That makes sense. Maybe for example, Americans over 100ms dq and Australians over 200ms disqualify. Probably to difficult. Anyways, anyone excessively warping and/or disconnecting should be removed from the gst.

200ms for Australians seems very harsh especially people like me who live in different states than you, I sit on 220-250 ms usually most of the day, similar with people like nell and jarod, also counting the fluctuating lag from GST you really wouldn't be able to help it if your delay is over 200ms.

David 02-22-2016 05:08 AM

lag cap is ridiculous considering how frequently I jump from ~100 to 500+ and I'm in America

wouldn't work.

qes 02-22-2016 05:35 AM

Sarah delays. she doesn't USUALLY warp or LAG. but she always delays. Delay is legal and its better not to complain about things you can't change. At the same time, iclassic doesn't have enough staff looking into cheaters. Not saying sarah is a cheater. but its normal to be suspicious about her delay if somebody who is 80k-10k can do it using the simple C sparring techniques on the wall that she uses.
With all this said if sarah didn't delay
- she would still be a good sparrer
-probably wouldn't have the same amazing ratio/wins amount
-would still be considered a great idevice sparrer because she would adapt to not lagging.

but considering she's the only sparring using C style spar techniques that can get 80k wins and can beat advanced offensively/smart sparers who use far more advanced techniques... its normal to be suspicious especially because the iclassic staff don't do a good enough job monitoring sparers.

Marc 02-22-2016 05:51 AM

My only comment on the Sarah thing is that you have a **** load of advantage early we basically can't even push out early. At least from my screen I have to stay 3-4 sword lengths behind. Then you have mood who for god knows why just rushes in the middle of the team and takes a hit after a billion years while he gets a million. You think delay isn't an advantage you're not going to tell me it's fair cause if I was able to walk through the opponents wall and not get jumped and take 3-4 hits, then fine by me. Also I heard abood is a lot worst with his lag and delay so that's not even helpful... I've seen your spar videos and you clearly hit people where they are unless it wasn't your screen but I can't hit any of you guys unless I'm miles away...

That's my opinion doe, I don't know the physics behind your weird ass delay but ye. Legit would like to have you spar someone and both people record your screen **** makes no sense!

You can probably sit on the mid line and spam your sword like AK does and not get hit, and people won't even push out cause they got to stay miles behind, just saying.
Legit stupid!

Darkk 02-22-2016 05:58 AM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 676576)
That makes sense. Maybe for example, Americans over 100ms dq and Australians over 200ms disqualify. Probably to difficult. Anyways, anyone excessively warping and/or disconnecting should be removed from the gst.

Yeah the whole ms cap thing is my stupid dream. Although this (in bold) needs to be strongly imposed. The lag is limited in the actual spar rooms where the admins view the spars and where the players queue, therefore they can clearly see if anyones disconnecting and/or constantly warping.

GotenGraal 02-22-2016 05:59 AM

Yo marc u r legit stupid lol


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