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BEH0LD iTz SAM 02-18-2012 07:57 AM

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Posted by Squigglez (Post 69035)
Hire this man

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Maikeru 02-18-2012 10:35 AM

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Posted by Godzilla (Post 69098)
lol i guess this topic took off again.

dedicated staff teams would be really nice, however these days a lot of the staff do more than on job. ex: GP and uploader, or GP and events, or GP and GFX, etc. however the fact that we have no FAQs really bugs me.

someone said that the players should be answering questions. most players dont want to spend time helping someone. if somebody has an in depth question about VIP, how it works, what you get, etc then no players gonna wanna sit around telling you unless they're really nice. we really do need people dedicated to helping others.

and seeing as this server is community based, and has become a social MMO im really surprised that the staff arent concentrating on things like events, or new weapons which would really enhance the social aspect of the game. marriage is great, and i cant wait for the new town and everything but i feel like your time would be much better spent working on things like events, and mini games.

and i stopped taking yephen and maikeru seriously long ago. they obviously just want to get hired.

Wow... Where the hell do you come up with this awful speculation of yours? and you call me the one pulling sh*t out of nowhere..

I have nothing to dedicate nor do i want to dedicate because just like admins... Im busy doing other things in life and i don't want a position where i get hammered by such an awful fanbase that only tries to push me so far for this type of content.. also, im learning C++ and Java because my major right now is Game Design (aas) and i have nothing to do with Graal other than playing on it and talking with my friends.. You're just bagging on me for no reason.. and if it is a reason, its gotta do something with the game you Graal addict...

First off, the staff is entirely dedicated so idk where the hell have you been.. The marriage system is now working, questions are being answered by most admins (even Xor), new places and shops are opening up... Seriously, you haven't seen any of the Changes for the 2012 Graal Classic..

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and seeing as this server is community based, and has become a social MMO im really surprised that the staff arent concentrating on things like events, or new weapons which would really enhance the social aspect of the game. marriage is great, and i cant wait for the new town and everything but i feel like your time would be much better spent working on things like events, and mini games.
Seriously... You're just skipping here... They just created the Treasure Hunt this year! Dear god... Where are you looking!?

You're trying to not take me seriously when i can't take you seriously... at all! You're not professional at all and you aren't right in any of your ways.. You're just listing random sections of Graal and complaining on things they just improved/made in 2012.. There is going to be new events and the staff are entirely dedicated... Because if they did not, you wouldn't be seeing the new marriage system, any events, no more uploads, no more GST's, and other huge improvements

If you're trying to argue against me and yephen and bag on both of us just to get a higher reputation, you're doing a terrible job on your own. Since you're a "Graal addict", why don't you actually play it and look around... i only played the iPhone version of Graal Classic and never touched the PC version, yet i still more know than you..

Grow up...

Skyzer 02-18-2012 11:53 AM

Ya'll care too much imo.

Pazx 02-18-2012 12:54 PM

I'm glad we have people like Skyzer here but I always wonder why they stick around on the iPhone forum.

Yephenpeace 02-18-2012 03:27 PM

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Posted by Squigglez (Post 69053)
Translation: pls adaim pls pls hire me ily pls.
Please whine in response. I'd be glad to listen. dont say how this isnt true. all your posts basically suck up to admins. haha youre cool.

Oh you nailed it! because we all know if you aren't a whiny immature child you must be a suck up! As long as i'm cool in your mind, that's all that matters. :)

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Posted by Godzilla (Post 69098)
and i stopped taking yephen and maikeru seriously long ago. they obviously just want to get hired.

I honestly don't see what i said that would imply that, but ok.

Anyway, praise admins holy names!!!!!!!! I help ppl in graal nd stuff.

Godzilla 02-18-2012 03:30 PM

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Posted by Maikeru (Post 69160)
i only played the iPhone version of Graal Classic and never touched the PC version, yet i still more know than you..

I'd like to start with this because it made me lol. i feel like i dont even have to explain this, and the grammatical error just puts the icing on the cake for me.

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Wow... Where the hell do you come up with this awful speculation of yours? and you call me the one pulling sh*t out of nowhere..
ill show you where i came up with this lol.

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Posted by NYN (Post 52079)
Hey everybody... umad?

Trolol...

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Posted by Maikeru (Post 52088)
It actually sounds like uMad NYN because you just locked the topic without a second thought, acting like a lil 13 year old... No offence dude...

You don't have to butt into this if you don't want to. Other admins/mods can discuss it y'know. We're just sharing our thoughts honestly like you guys wanted us to in the first place :)

Don't be mad. Be chill

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Posted by NYN (Post 52098)
Your post is offensive to 13 year olds everywhere.

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Posted by Maikeru (Post 52103)
and Your post doesn't got anything to do with what we were previously discussing. Its funny what you did with the whole uMad thing but please... Stay on topic with what we were discussing.. Or just stay out of it... We're not here to piss you off.. We're just discussing honestly... Man to man..

actually, Third option: You can watch the first post video and laugh a couple of times

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Posted by NYN (Post 52113)

now here we see Maikeru telling NYN to stop going off topic, and trolling. where he was right, and NYN did need to stop. and he did when Maikeru asked. but then...

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Posted by Maikeru (Post 52115)
awwwh :( I can't take away what made NYN.. NYN!
-friend hug-
Me sowwie. I take back what i say. You can trololol.. Please do..

wtf...if this isnt sucking up i dont know what is. you actually got NYN to shut up, which is very hard, and then you try to just take it all back. you probably realized that saying things like this would make NYN like you, and he might make you admian.

then we have this...

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Posted by NYN (Post 67037)
WHOA WHOA wait a second... HOLD THE PHONE... STOP the presses...


...There's a Classic for PC?

NYN going off topic again, and doing his trolling.

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Posted by Rasp (Post 67600)
see thats the type of "trolling" you do that annoys people, I'm sorry but your not funny thats my opinion though. Im not trying to hate on you I'm just saying you saying random immature posts on threads is annoying

someone confronts him...

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Posted by Maikeru (Post 67602)
Wow... So mature...
Thanks Captain serious but that was entirely un-needed on this topic..

and you say this...your taking NYNs side for no reason other than trying to be his friend, and get hired. i mean NYN's clearly going off topic and when Rasp confronts him you get mad at Rasp?

and then you have the fact that you almost always take the admins side in your posts. i dont think ive ever seen you go against them except for that NYN time, and even then you took it all back.

your trying to make friends with staff members to get hired.

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I have nothing to dedicate nor do i want to dedicate because just like admins... Im busy doing other things in life and i don't want a position where i get hammered by such an awful fanbase that only tries to push me so far for this type of content.. also, im learning C++ and Java because my major right now is Game Design (aas) and i have nothing to do with Graal other than playing on it and talking with my friends.. You're just bagging on me for no reason.. and if it is a reason, its gotta do something with the game you Graal addict...
i love how you sneaked some of your qualifications into this post. im bagging on you because you only make your positions because you want to be hired.

you just dont want to make it sound like your going for a staff position because according to NYN's guide, you wont get it if you do.

also i feel like someone in game design should be able to see how badly iclassic is designed.

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First off, the staff is entirely dedicated so idk where the hell have you been.. The marriage system is now working, questions are being answered by most admins (even Xor), new places and shops are opening up... Seriously, you haven't seen any of the Changes for the 2012 Graal Classic..
i meant dedicated positions, like not just a ton of GP's who do various things.

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Seriously... You're just skipping here... They just created the Treasure Hunt this year! Dear god... Where are you looking!?
i want good events which are fun for the players. running around and digging random holes isnt exactly fun. i wouldnt expect you to know what a real event is because you havnt touched PC graal.

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If you're trying to argue against me and yephen and bag on both of us just to get a higher reputation, you're doing a terrible job on your own.
lol im not trying to get higher rep, im just saying you only take the positions you do because you want to be hired...which is true.

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Since you're a "Graal addict", why don't you actually play it
so im a graal addict who doesn't play graal?

im just someone whos seen this game evolve over the last 2 years, and see a ton of potential go to waste. excuse me for wanting to see actual content added to this game, but i've seen actual content on PC graal and i want it here. this is graals most popular server, yet its also one of the worst.

Aran 02-18-2012 03:57 PM

You can't really say ALL staff are useless, true some aren't exactly "good admins" but there are a few admins who are dedicated to their job, aren't stuck up, take there time to help you, and don't just go around bragging and abusing their powers.

Ace 02-18-2012 04:57 PM

Help you with what?

Izarin 02-18-2012 07:10 PM

Ow, the grammar.....
 
Oh god, my head hurts.... As I have a tremendous amount of respect for Maikeru and Yephen, I really doubt they want staff positions. And I swear, if someone claims I want a staff position, they're idiots. I hate most staff for their idiocy. Alright, let's get started with this.
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Posted by Godzilla (Post 69210)
I'd like to start with this because it made me lol. i feel like i dont even have to explain this, and the grammatical error just puts the icing on the cake for me.

The grammatical error being that he didn't capitalize the I? HAHAHAHAH How hypocritical.

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now here we see Maikeru telling NYN to stop going off topic, and trolling. where he was right, and NYN did need to stop. and he did when Maikeru asked. but then...


wtf...if this isnt sucking up i dont know what is. you actually got NYN to shut up, which is very hard, and then you try to just take it all back. you probably realized that saying things like this would make NYN like you, and he might make you admian.
Maybe he was joking around, and maybe he actually is friends with NYN? Hmm... No, god forbid, since adiams can't have friends without them wanting something! Ffs.... Stop assuming...

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NYN going off topic again, and doing his trolling.

and you say this...your taking NYNs side for no reason other than trying to be his friend, and get hired. i mean NYN's clearly going off topic and when Rasp confronts him you get mad at Rasp?

and then you have the fact that you almost always take the admins side in your posts. i dont think ive ever seen you go against them except for that NYN time, and even then you took it all back.
Okay, so. You're saying he's doing it only to be his friend? Maybe they ALREADY are friends? And yes, maybe Maikeru's comment was unneeded, but nor was Rasp's, since NYN was making a joke, which is entirely different from trolling. Learn the difference.

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your trying to make friends with staff members to get hired.
Grammar aside, assumption. Disregarding.


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i love how you sneaked some of your qualifications into this post. im bagging on you because you only make your positions because you want to be hired.

you just dont want to make it sound like your going for a staff position because according to NYN's guide, you wont get it if you do.
Actually, he MIGHT be posting that in there because it's... hard work and he can't actually be an admin, not because he wants to be hired....

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also i feel like someone in game design should be able to see how badly iclassic is designed.
So.... He should see how badly it's designed and want to be an admin?.... Maybe he does see and just doesn't bring it up.


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i meant dedicated positions, like not just a ton of GP's who do various things.
Ok... My explanation is too long. Basically, there are a lot of GPs because there are a lot of people who play and if there were less, but they suddenly couldn't get on, then the whole system would fall. Also, the GPs can answer feedback and reports if hackers or glitchers are about, but for the most part, there are areas that might have no people to report glitchers. There are so many of those spots, a single GP can't handle it all. So they need a few. Also- timezones. I really do not know if that made sense, but it's shorter than my original response.

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i want good events which are fun for the players. running around and digging random holes isnt exactly fun. i wouldnt expect you to know what a real event is because you havnt touched PC graal.
So you're doing this for the players? Not all players care. They enjoy the social aspect, and those that don't can get their guild to go do CTF or spar, as most do. The events part is slowly being managed, and will most likely be better by the summer.

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lol im not trying to get higher rep, im just saying you only take the positions you do because you want to be hired...which is true.
ASSUMPTION. Disregarding.



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so im a graal addict who doesn't play graal?
im just someone whos seen this game evolve over the last 2 years, and see a ton of potential go to waste. excuse me for wanting to see actual content added to this game, but i've seen actual content on PC graal and i want it here. this is graals most popular server, yet its also one of the worst.
STOP THE PRESSES. Why do you care if you don't play? It isn't your job, unless.... YOU want to get hired!!!!!! GASP! (See what out of the park assumptions do?)

Gambit Drakul 02-18-2012 07:20 PM

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Posted by Godzilla (Post 69210)
I'd like to start with this because it made me lol. i feel like i dont even have to explain this, and the grammatical error just puts the icing on the cake for me.



ill show you where i came up with this lol.











now here we see Maikeru telling NYN to stop going off topic, and trolling. where he was right, and NYN did need to stop. and he did when Maikeru asked. but then...



wtf...if this isnt sucking up i dont know what is. you actually got NYN to shut up, which is very hard, and then you try to just take it all back. you probably realized that saying things like this would make NYN like you, and he might make you admian.

then we have this...


NYN going off topic again, and doing his trolling.



someone confronts him...


and you say this...your taking NYNs side for no reason other than trying to be his friend, and get hired. i mean NYN's clearly going off topic and when Rasp confronts him you get mad at Rasp?

and then you have the fact that you almost always take the admins side in your posts. i dont think ive ever seen you go against them except for that NYN time, and even then you took it all back.

your trying to make friends with staff members to get hired.



i love how you sneaked some of your qualifications into this post. im bagging on you because you only make your positions because you want to be hired.

you just dont want to make it sound like your going for a staff position because according to NYN's guide, you wont get it if you do.

also i feel like someone in game design should be able to see how badly iclassic is designed.



i meant dedicated positions, like not just a ton of GP's who do various things.



i want good events which are fun for the players. running around and digging random holes isnt exactly fun. i wouldnt expect you to know what a real event is because you havnt touched PC graal.



lol im not trying to get higher rep, im just saying you only take the positions you do because you want to be hired...which is true.



so im a graal addict who doesn't play graal?

im just someone whos seen this game evolve over the last 2 years, and see a ton of potential go to waste. excuse me for wanting to see actual content added to this game, but i've seen actual content on PC graal and i want it here. this is graals most popular server, yet its also one of the worst.

THIS I'd give you +Rep my boy but I can't :( but I will give you a high 5 on Classic Pc when you're on! :D

Godzilla 02-18-2012 08:01 PM

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Posted by Izarin (Post 69279)
Oh god, my head hurts.... As I have a tremendous amount of respect for Maikeru and Yephen, I really doubt they want staff positions. And I swear, if someone claims I want a staff position, they're idiots. I hate most staff for their idiocy. Alright, let's get started with this.
The grammatical error being that he didn't capitalize the I? HAHAHAHAH How hypocritical.

that me not wanting to capitalize every single letter. mixing words around is much funnier :P. getting anal about people not capitalizing stuff is just annoying.

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Maybe he was joking around, and maybe he actually is friends with NYN? Hmm... No, god forbid, since adiams can't have friends without them wanting something! Ffs.... Stop assuming...
he could be friends with NYN, but im talking about him constantly kissing the staff members asses.

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Okay, so. You're saying he's doing it only to be his friend? Maybe they ALREADY are friends? And yes, maybe Maikeru's comment was unneeded, but nor was Rasp's, since NYN was making a joke, which is entirely different from trolling. Learn the difference.
NYNs "joke" was off topic, unnecessary, and not even funny. and he's done it on tons of other threads too. when someone confronts him BOOM! there maikeru defending him.

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Grammar aside, assumption. Disregarding.
actually i just posted a lot of evidence. you can be friends with all the staff members you want but the fact that when people complain about the tiniest aspect of the game they're always there siding with the admins is...well...kissing ass.
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Actually, he MIGHT be posting that in there because it's... hard work and he can't actually be an admin, not because he wants to be hired....
would have been sufficient to say im very busy with college work, but instead he said he was working in game design, and he could code.
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So.... He should see how badly it's designed and want to be an admin?.... Maybe he does see and just doesn't bring it up.
well he should see its badly designed for a social mmo, and instead of flaming posts which ask for change agree with them?


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Ok... My explanation is too long. Basically, there are a lot of GPs because there are a lot of people who play and if there were less, but they suddenly couldn't get on, then the whole system would fall. Also, the GPs can answer feedback and reports if hackers or glitchers are about, but for the most part, there are areas that might have no people to report glitchers. There are so many of those spots, a single GP can't handle it all. So they need a few. Also- timezones. I really do not know if that made sense, but it's shorter than my original response.
we have a ton of GPs who do a lot of things. so we could just take a few aside and dedicate them to one task, so they can concentrate on that instead of uploading, then patrolling, then answering questions if theyre one of the good ones, then doing an event, then uploading again etc. just dedicate them to one task. honestly we dont need more than one or 2 GP's patrolling at one time these days. and if you need more im sure yephen and maikeru would love to help!


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So you're doing this for the players? Not all players care. They enjoy the social aspect, and those that don't can get their guild to go do CTF or spar, as most do. The events part is slowly being managed, and will most likely be better by the summer.
wouldnt the social aspect be better if they spent more time working on that instead of marriage (which is basically pointless), new towns (which are great, but will probably end up being ignored despite all the work that goes into them), and more customizations?

ASSUMPTION. Disregarding.




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STOP THE PRESSES. Why do you care if you don't play? It isn't your job, unless.... YOU want to get hired!!!!!! GASP! (See what out of the park assumptions do?)
i do play lol. not much but i still know whats going around in graal.

and if i wanted to be hired id be making posts like maikeru's and yephens not like these.

Yephenpeace 02-18-2012 08:26 PM

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Posted by Godzilla (Post 69309)
i do play lol. not much but i still know whats going around in graal.

and if i wanted to be hired id be making posts like maikeru's and yephens not like these.

Lol, i hope you realise this is a game and not everyone takes it as serious as you. If you have any quote of me "sucking up" feel free to post it. I would like to know what you mean by "posts like me".

MattKan 02-18-2012 09:03 PM

Pix works for three other iPhone servers. Oh, and he runs Graalians MC. That's four major jobs right there - four persons worth of work. Clearly they aren't hiring him because they know he won't be as dedicated to iClassic or have time to work there. + I find it fishy when people want to work everywhere.

/case solved

Ace 02-18-2012 09:28 PM

Stop reposting. Omfg your spamming the goddamn thread

Yephenpeace 02-18-2012 09:30 PM

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Posted by ACE (Post 69358)
Stop reposting. Omfg your spamming the goddamn thread

Just go to thread tools and click "unsubscribe". :P


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