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Lagger 01-07-2017 04:09 PM

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Posted by Chase* (Post 754766)
This just proves how bad Graal PC is lol. Dont only blame carlito, blame Unixmad for hiring that selfish dumbass.

lulz

trimaster 01-07-2017 05:14 PM

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Posted by Chase* (Post 754766)
This just proves how bad Graal PC is lol. Dont only blame carlito, blame Unixmad for hiring that selfish dumbass.

Yes and no. Yes because Unixmad is to blame due to not looking into how corrupt Carilto. No because the graal community didn't try hard enough to get rid of him. To say that PC Graal is so bad is ridiculous. Yes there's not that many players anymore but it's because all you iOS players barely know about it since Unixmad doesn't advertise it due to the fact it "doesn't make money".

Relic 01-08-2017 03:47 AM

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Posted by trimaster (Post 754782)
Yes and no. Yes because Unixmad is to blame due to not looking into how corrupt Carilto. No because the graal community didn't try hard enough to get rid of him. To say that PC Graal is so bad is ridiculous. Yes there's not that many players anymore but it's because all you iOS players barely know about it since Unixmad doesn't advertise it due to the fact it "doesn't make money".

implying unixmad does anything ever besides ban random people he doesn't like for no reason lol

trimaster 01-08-2017 04:00 AM

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Posted by Relic (Post 754910)
implying unixmad does anything ever besides ban random people he doesn't like for no reason lol

;) ;) ;)

Sig. 01-08-2017 09:03 PM

Going to add my 2 cents to it:

I do believe that MD was the main cause of UNs downfall. However, certain players as well as staff kept giving MD reasons to actually take actions; for example Ramza (who was no staff during that period at all) and other staff members that thought they can do whatever they want, like unbanning a player that got banned by MD for USDing.
UN has been toxic since years, there were always corrupt staff members like Wynde, who fired staff jailing BTK ******s but it was always within UNs own community. I can't really say anything against the taken measures because they had reasons.
However, I don't really like the way MD has dealt with UN; he kept bugging the management (Jave) which made him quit his position. Jave was UNs last hope at that point. And I'm sorry but if you manage to get your account hacked on multiple platforms (facebook, skype, graal) by a fat guy who has zero knowledge then you should probably blame yourself. MD was actually the reason why certain staff decided to help Ramza instead of taking actions against him.

Alex Damian 01-09-2017 01:12 AM

Well when, and if, a new PWA comes along maybe try asking them to bring back UN. I'm sure they'd understand because in all honesty Carlito shouldn't have just ended UN as a whole

Kiri 01-09-2017 03:01 AM

actually carlito did the right thing for unholynations, there were alot of toxic people there trolling day and night, i am relieved that it was put to a stop.

whenever a new player were to login, the old players would suggest them to avoid the server, it's better off gone than to cause more problems.

Bryan* 01-09-2017 03:18 AM

UN was good with the events. Met a lot of decent folks there


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