Got my Ps4 today with Battlefield with China Rising can't wait to finally play it!

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Oooooohhhh 1,000,000 assault score.

I have almost 900,000 engi score. I have 1/2 million assault, 300,000 support and 120,000 recon. <3engi engi engi<3

Bf4 finally works for me :D...... for now

i am not a huge fan of the engis. i only use engi if im going behind enemy lines, playing paintball, or if my team is ******s and theres hardley any engis.
BTW is the UMP-9 anygood? im trying to get the engi expert assignment done.

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I don't know if the UMP-9 is any good, as I haven't done the assignment. I've had great success with the UMP-45 and the MX4 however. I slap a suppressor on the MX4 and I can spank some booty with that little beast.

God battlefield 4 for next gen is so laggy and buggy. I was just standing in spawn shooting the infinite ammo that I had while my teammates were out having fun :(

Self explanatory why it was so laggy.

holy cow you have a 900,000 engi score and havn't completed that assignment O.o, go repair some scout or transprt choppers, fastest way to get repair tool ribbions and up scout heli score. I use the MX4 muzzle angled and laser sights. I did though take a look at its stats, it looks decent at mid range.

It was like that at the start of the game I couldn't even move and if I even tried to the lag would somehow force me back into the same spot. It wasn't only happening to me, but the games I joined other players were in the same position as me.

eh, never really felt the need to go and grind for it. I think that PDWs are all outclassed greatly by carbines past 20 meters or so so it's not even worth unlocking the lower fire rate ones. The CBJMS I had some success with because of it's large ammo capacity and the UMP45 because of it's high damage but I don't really think the UMP9 has a place. I love rocking the MX4 suppressed because I can rape like 20 people consecutively and the police won't ever know. My only problem with running the MX4 with a suppressor is that I run out of ammo like every other life so I can't kill as many people as I want. #firstworldproblems.

I never had real awesome 20-0 rounds with any pdws. I just stick with the acwr supp or the ak5c

With PDWs, you have to control the engagement super hard. Carbines like the ones you listed give you some room to wiggle and do the job PDWs are designed to do just as well as the PDWs themselves. The AK5C is one of my favorite carbines. Awesome at medium ranges, and does decent in CQC.

Its not great in cqc since the 700rpm kills it, but its a beast at medium - long range. Also whats apparently really good is the MG4.

But pdws are designed to be the best in cqc since they have low hip spread so you can sprint and shoot more accurate and move and shoot faster than you would aiming.
You wanna know whats a real buzzkill? The 44 magnum. That dumb delay.