Guide: Did I Make This?

Tyler · 06-20-2012

NOTE: This thread is for the people who actually are confused about the terms of making/editing/stealing. If this thread does not apply to you please do not write a comment such as this being a pointless thread. I'm very aware a lot of people on Graal know these definitions and like to be ass holes and claim it anyways. This thread is for people who do not or would like to learn.

There are apparently many people on Graal who do not know the correct definitions of made/edit/stole. There are also those who do know and claim graphics as theirs just to be a thief. Well today I'm going to explain whether or not you actually made something.

"I recolored a head. I made it!" Yeah... NO. If you recolor someone's graphic you did NOT make it. You simply edited it. It's a very simple edit that only takes a few clicks and hardly any effort.

Example:

"I added a T-shirt onto this body. I made it." Not quite. You edited the graphic, but did not create it from scratch. Editing isn't bad as long as you do a large chunk of it on the graphic or if you get permission from the original creator.

Example:

"I used this graphic as a reference to help create an outline for my own. I made it." Yes, you did make it as long as you did not trace over the image or copy it to look exact. I use many reference and outlines from other bodies to create my own or even create my own outline and use it for my other bodies.

Example:

"I created my own graphic from my original design. I made it." Yes, yes you did. If you created a graphic from your own design and by your own hand you created it.

Example:

"I took a graphic that someone else made and uploaded it. I made it." No. Just no. Stealing someone else's work is a really low thing to do. They invest their time to make it and you disrespect them by uploading it without their permission.

I'm aware I used my customs as examples and it's just because I don't want people getting angry for showing their design on here.

The point of this thread was to help correct some people who are constantly saying they made a custom but obviously did not.

Talon · 06-20-2012

Nice guide, but I don't think this problem extends to many Graalians on this forum. I would suggest putting it in a Tinyurl and putting that in your in-game status for more publicity to the people that need to see this.

Nice work ^.^ /)

Tyler · 06-20-2012

Posted by Talon

Nice guide, but I don't think this problem extends to many Graalians on this forum. I would suggest putting it in a Tinyurl and putting that in your in-game status for more publicity to the people that need to see this.

Nice work ^.^ /)

Thanks, and yeah you're right. I've only seen a few misguided people on here, but haven't seen them in awhile. I would make a tinyurl.com page, but I have no idea how.

Higbey · 06-20-2012

Unfortunatly staff do not enforce this.

David K? · 06-20-2012

Posted by Higbey

Unfortunatly staff do not enforce this.

I've seen a wood holding sushi shield that sideways looked like a long ... something else.
I'm not sure what exactly they enforce..

Remorse · 06-20-2012

People always steal my stuff .-.

Tyler · 06-20-2012

Posted by Remorse

People always steal my stuff .-.

Join the club.

Maikeru · 06-21-2012

So if i recolor a body blue and shifts its pixels all around, its considered that you created the body...

Wow... Idk how Admins still accept this..

Tyler · 06-21-2012

Posted by Maikeru

So if i recolor a body blue and shifts its pixels all around, its considered that you created the body...

Wow... Idk how Admins still accept this..

That's the example for editing not creating.

Maikeru · 06-21-2012

Posted by Tyler

That's the example for editing not creating.

I know what you said.. But thats not editing.
Its the equivalent of a recolor because all you did was recolor the body and shifted a few pixels.. So no.. You did not made it.

Thats like if i take Mario, recolor him, and move his pants/hat by 2 pixels to the left.. Did i made it? No

Tyler · 06-21-2012

Posted by Maikeru

I know what you said.. But thats not editing.
Its the equivalent of a recolor because all you did was recolor the body and shifted a few pixels.. So no.. You did not made it.

Thats like if i take Mario, recolor him, and move his pants/hat by 2 pixels to the left.. Did i made it? No

It's an edit because it's more than just a recolor. I know it doesn't take much, but it does count as an edit because it does have a quite a difference in look between the two. If it bothers you that much than I'll put a different example.

EDIT: Nevermind it won't let me edit my thread.

Skyzer · 06-21-2012

Guides like these shouldn't exist.

DRAN · 06-21-2012

Tyler, I know you said not to post a useless comment, but i'd just like to say that I really like that last example (samurai-looking body), good work.

Nice guide too.

Tyler · 06-21-2012

Posted by DRAN

Tyler, I know you said not to post a useless comment, but i'd just like to say that I really like that last example (samurai-looking body), good work.

Nice guide too.

Thank you, and it's not useless. I like feedback on whether or not the examples are fitting with the description I have given.

Maikeru · 06-22-2012

Posted by Tyler

It's an edit because it's more than just a recolor. I know it doesn't take much, but it does count as an edit because it does have a quite a difference in look between the two.

Yea but you didn't made it since it wasn't edited heavily. Again, all you did was recolored the body and shifted the pixels.

Heres the equivalent of what you're showing me, based on one of my old sprites (even though the example i posted looks somewhat weak):
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5247/maikeruu.png (Unsupported image host) (Mines)

(Yours)
You just recolored and shifted a few pixels to easily say that you can claim it yours and that you made the sprite.

Thats not an edit.. Comparing between the example you posted, it looks more of a recolor to be honest.

Post a different example of what you mean please

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Tyler Dark Desert Fox Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United States, Ohio Posts: 5,720	Guide: Did I Make This? NOTE: This thread is for the people who actually are confused about the terms of making/editing/stealing. If this thread does not apply to you please do not write a comment such as this being a pointless thread. I'm very aware a lot of people on Graal know these definitions and like to be ass holes and claim it anyways. This thread is for people who do not or would like to learn. There are apparently many people on Graal who do not know the correct definitions of made/edit/stole. There are also those who do know and claim graphics as theirs just to be a thief. Well today I'm going to explain whether or not you actually made something. "I recolored a head. I made it!" Yeah... NO. If you recolor someone's graphic you did NOT make it. You simply edited it. It's a very simple edit that only takes a few clicks and hardly any effort. Example: "I added a T-shirt onto this body. I made it." Not quite. You edited the graphic, but did not create it from scratch. Editing isn't bad as long as you do a large chunk of it on the graphic or if you get permission from the original creator. Example: "I used this graphic as a reference to help create an outline for my own. I made it." Yes, you did make it as long as you did not trace over the image or copy it to look exact. I use many reference and outlines from other bodies to create my own or even create my own outline and use it for my other bodies. Example: "I created my own graphic from my original design. I made it." Yes, yes you did. If you created a graphic from your own design and by your own hand you created it. Example: "I took a graphic that someone else made and uploaded it. I made it." No. Just no. Stealing someone else's work is a really low thing to do. They invest their time to make it and you disrespect them by uploading it without their permission. I'm aware I used my customs as examples and it's just because I don't want people getting angry for showing their design on here. The point of this thread was to help correct some people who are constantly saying they made a custom but obviously did not.

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Talon don't call it a comeback Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 8,268	Nice guide, but I don't think this problem extends to many Graalians on this forum. I would suggest putting it in a Tinyurl and putting that in your in-game status for more publicity to the people that need to see this. Nice work ^.^ /)

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Higbey Not Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hell Posts: 4,885	Unfortunatly staff do not enforce this.

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Remorse Who knows? Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: California Posts: 1,716	People always steal my stuff .-.

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Maikeru Quack Quack~ Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,810	So if i recolor a body blue and shifts its pixels all around, its considered that you created the body... Wow... Idk how Admins still accept this..

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Skyzer Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Hampshire, United States Posts: 3,135	Guides like these shouldn't exist.

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DRAN MOLON LABE Join Date: May 2012 Location: In a tent. Posts: 223	Tyler, I know you said not to post a useless comment, but i'd just like to say that I really like that last example (samurai-looking body), good work. Nice guide too.