Some kid made a rage thread with a poll asking if tower hours from fb should be completely removed, and made the poll answers biased. So here's an unbiased poll.

also votes are private unlike his thread so no one can rage at you for your choice.  

Being that most people that play graal don't have an account this is pointless. This is just a "rage thread" against twilits "rage thread" lol. Mine is based on fact from different players all over graal. Anyone can make multiple graalians accounts and rig this thread.  

god these threads are getting annoying.  

And the whole poll is different from our thread. Seperate leaderboards not delete hours entirely...  

Posted by GotenGraal

Being that most people that play graal don't have an account this is pointless. This is just a "rage thread" against twilits "rage thread" lol. Mine is based on fact from different players all over graal. Anyone can make multiple graalians accounts and rig this thread.

Actually Rufus has ways of detecting alts.  

listen up shrub scrub. first of all i nvr said "completely removed". what happens is up to admins. i just want fb hours separated from iphone's scoreboard. there are many ideas as to how to resolve this in other threads. 2nd my poll isnt private so ppl can see who votes for what. this protects against ppl from using double acc's and u can see that the only ppl who vote "no" are the PCers who used fb server. PROBLEM?!

and yes, as goten said, u pointing out that mine is a "rage thread" ur only raging at me urself. so its a lose-lose currently. if a neutral 3rd party wants to politely make a new poll with correct information and doesnt attack any one person, HAVE AT IT! everyones just gonna vote the same on all 3 polls.

HAVE A NICE DAY!  

Posted by twilit

listen up shrub scrub. first of all i nvr said "completely removed". what happens is up to admins. i just want fb hours separated from iphone's scoreboard. there are many ideas as to how to resolve this in other threads. 2nd my poll isnt private so ppl can see who votes for what. this protects against ppl from using double acc's and u can see that the only ppl who vote "no" are the PCers who used fb server. PROBLEM?!

and yes, as goten said, u pointing out that mine is a "rage thread" ur only raging at me urself. so its a lose-lose currently. if a neutral 3rd party wants to politely make a new poll with correct information and doesnt attack any one person, HAVE AT IT! everyones just gonna vote the same on all 3 polls.

HAVE A NICE DAY!

First off, I never named who made the original thread. Second, the poll options were completely biased and made whoever voted for no look akward. I almost didn't vote because of the extreme bias. Also putting things like that in the hands of the admins is never a good idea.


Pretty much all of SHRUBS hours were from iPhone, and I still voted no. So don't make the assumption that only fbers vote no. I voted no because people spent hundreds of hours working on fb servers, sure it may be easier, but it still took a lot of work.

its essentially the same as saying remove the hours of people who take towers late at night when only 3-5 are defending.  

Posted by Skill

First off, I never named who made the original thread. Second, the poll options were completely biased and made whoever voted for no look akward. I almost didn't vote because of the extreme bias. Also putting things like that in the hands of the admins is never a good idea.


Pretty much all of SHRUBS hours were from iPhone, and I still voted no. So don't make the assumption that only fbers vote no. I voted no because people spent hundreds of hours working on fb servers, sure it may be easier, but it still took a lot of work.

its essentially the same as saying remove the hours of people who take towers late at night when only 3-5 are defending.

No the removing guilds that take towers at night is flat out stupid lol. And even that's still way harder than fb towering lol. Fb towering does not take hard work that is the thing, you can literally take a tower alone and hold alone for a decent amount of time. You take any tower alone which is rare on iphone, every big guild will rush to fort and fight for it. Fb is just a joke and always was.  

Posted by GotenGraal

No the removing guilds that take towers at night is flat out stupid lol. And even that's still way harder than fb towering lol. Fb towering does not take hard work that is the thing, you can literally take a tower alone and hold alone for a decent amount of time. You take any tower alone which is rare on iphone, every big guild will rush to fort and fight for it. Fb is just a joke and always was.

No. When I tried taking forts on fb they had on average 4-6 people at each fort.  

Posted by Skill

No. When I tried taking forts on fb they had on average 4-6 people at each fort.

^Maybe when fb first came out otherwise no. The typical average recently is around 2-4. And depending on times forts are occasionally abandoned. I have seen empty forts a few times myself. You'd never see such easy opportunities on iphone.  

Probably tried to earn hours before the merge.  

Seriously, why the hell do people care?

Even if they were easy to get, the still got them.

We see all these 'top' guilds going on about how they need a challenge, and with these extra guilds that will be used to taking towers, they got it. And if FB towers were really as easy as you all say, these guilds might find it to hard and disband.

New players don't complain that their guild won't get anywhere when they start, and this is the same.  

Posted by Kiwi.

Seriously, why the hell do people care?

Even if they were easy to get, the still got them.

We see all these 'top' guilds going on about how they need a challenge, and with these extra guilds that will be used to taking towers, they got it. And if FB towers were really as easy as you all say, these guilds might find it to hard and disband.

New players don't complain that their guild won't get anywhere when they start, and this is the same.

they all just find something to complain about.  

Posted by Remorse

they all just find something to complain about.

No, you know absolutely nothing. What is the point of having about 15 DEAD guilds on leaderboard. The fb guilds are all dying already I haven't seen any with a tower besides exciled elements with mod 1 time... And before you argue that there are iphone guilds that are dead too, doesn't matter being that they worked MUCH harder and deserve to be recognized.  

Posted by GotenGraal

^Maybe when fb first came out otherwise no. The typical average recently is around 2-4. And depending on times forts are occasionally abandoned. I have seen empty forts a few times myself. You'd never see such easy opportunities on iphone.

At night on the iPhone server I see 2-4 at most towers, and on FB it has pretty much always been at 4-6 at a tower whenever I look.

Posted by GotenGraal

No, you know absolutely nothing. What is the point of having about 15 DEAD guilds on leaderboard. The fb guilds are all dying already I haven't seen any with a tower besides exciled elements with mod 1 time... And before you argue that there are iphone guilds that are dead too, doesn't matter being that they worked MUCH harder and deserve to be recognized.

Explain to me how it is fair that admins can recruit 20 people to their guild pretty much instantly because everyone wants to join them, then tell them to take a tower and they pretty much do it with little or no action on the admin's part. Magic and Cruxis pretty much worked this way, and they kicked offlines. No effort at all on the leaders part.


Also establishing a guild on FB is incredibly difficult because there is almost no one to recruit, therefore just as hard as iPhone.

Point is there are lots of things unfair within the scores system, and everyone is just going right at the fb server people.