I'm tired of players whining that pc sparrers have an advantage over iPhone sparrers and shouldn't be allowed to spar against them. The iPhone gst even banned pc players from participating. Using the facebook client grants you no advantage, if anything it gives you a disadvantage because of less responsive controls. People are really just upset because they're getting owned by people who have been using pc controls for over 10 years.

tl;dr: there is no advantage to using a pc for sparring, let pc players participate in future spar tournaments.  

PCs with a half-decent processor have much smoother response time and overall better controls, even without experience. I couldn't care less about PC sparrers, but they do have a slight advantage over iDevice sparrers.  

Join in on the fun many idevice users transfer there accounts to there pc accounts I don't see what the issue?? Even so if your running on a iPhone 2g and think a 4gs users is infact on a pc then your have another problem.  

I know they'll never be dealt with but the least someone could do is make a couple idevice only sparring rooms.  

Posted by Agony

PCs with a half-decent processor have much smoother response time and overall better controls, even without experience. I couldn't care less about PC sparrers, but they do have a slight advantage over iDevice sparrers.

Both are capped at 20 fps, and iPods can easily run Graal at that speed without problems(except when in really crowded places like Graal city). And iPods have better controls because the touch screen allows for very quick manipluation where as the keyboard can take time to react.  

Posted by GotenGraal

I know they'll never be dealt with but the least someone could do is make a couple idevice only sparring rooms.

Dude no. There is no difference between PC sparring and iDevice sparring. It might even be a liability to the PC users because I have found PC controls very unresponsive. Sparring is a nightmare with the PC.  

Posted by Skill

iPods have better controls

Except for.. y'know.. their inability to strafe.  

Pc sparrers have a decent advange over just the controls, nobody really sees the lag times if a iphone has good wifi.  

I feel like the freeze-rate when using a sword on PC is less than while on an iDevice, but that's probably just me.  

PC does have advantages as far as less lag and a bigger screen. The controls don't matter because it's the persons personal preference on which controls they do better on or are more used to. They also can run up an invisible area holding down two arrow keys. So yes, there are advantages.  

pc has advatage on iphoners. i own on both pc and ipod. i spar with pc on PC GRAAL (UN) and with ipod on iclassic. thats the way it was done and thats the way it should still be.
i would probably have a much better ratio if i used pc on iClassic. but i dont like winning by using an advantage.  

Everything that needs to be said is said.

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lol @ iphone having better controls.  

Lol how can you say pc have the disadvantage? YOU NEVER SAW 10:1 RATIOS EVER BEFORE PCERS CAME. When you spar a pc on iphone you will notice sometimes you swing your sword and they walk right through it no dmg being done. I spar both iphone and pcers I notice a huge different in difficulty when sparring a pc. And no not cause They've been pc players for 10 years lol. Every pc player, even new ones I struggle against, and most iphone sparrers who have been here before pc was added would agree with this.  

they have an advantage and its fairly obvious.