Posted by Ouki

I will say it again, graal really needs to implement security in this game and put an ms limit to lets say 100ms to spar. Also make sparring have more tournaments and rewards.

Yep. Let's restrict spar to 30 people when 4k are on. Great idea.  

Posted by Ouki

I will say it again, graal really needs to implement security in this game and put an ms limit to lets say 100ms to spar. Also make sparring have more tournaments and rewards.

What about those who don't lag/delay but have 100+ms because they're far away from the servers, unfair.  

Posted by Ouki

I will say it again, graal really needs to implement security in this game and put an ms limit to lets say 100ms to spar. Also make sparring have more tournaments and rewards.

This will never happen, has been suggested endlessly.  

Is it possible to like implement some features in this game?
I do computer programming and would like to actually make these ideas into reality like this game needs to change or its gonna become extinct.
(edit: just realized that just because i do computer programming this probably wont happen as i dont specialize programming in games)  

The biggest factor as to why spar isn't as active as what it was like 1-2yrs ago, is simplily people grew up, they have college, work, other priorities other then spar, sure, there's a new generation of sparrers, but this new bunch of sparrers have adapted to "sideroom=good ratio", also they probably have adapted to the basic c spar technique because most people use it and it works out decently for them, also if I was a new sparrer who knew nothing about the mechanics of spar and saw a bunch of speeders, people who delay, I wouldn't blame them for not seeming interested in spar, hence why there isn't as much active sparrers as there was before!  

Posted by alexx

The biggest factor as to why spar isn't as active as what it was like 1-2yrs ago, is simplily people grew up, they have college, work, other priorities other then spar, sure, there's a new generation of sparrers, but this new bunch of sparrers have adapted to "sideroom=good ratio", also they probably have adapted to the basic c spar technique because most people use it and it works out decently for them, also if I was a new sparrer who knew nothing about the mechanics of spar and saw a bunch of speeders, people who delay, I wouldn't blame them for not seeming interested in spar, hence why there isn't as much active sparrers as there was before!

I'd say the speeders doing it in small increments are what disinterest new sparrers.  

This isn't entirely true, there are actually "gaming VPN" services like WTFast and VyprVPN. I had an issue when I was playing League where I was getting 120 ping from Florida to California, used a US sever on WTFast and it dropped to 90. It all depends on your ISP and the routing you get to whatever server you're connecting to. It's not going to make your internet faster, but there are some cases where using a VPN can route you to the server in a more efficient way that will lower your ping.

again, it is true that WTFast can improve your ping. but do note that it's 100% due to suboptimal routing from your provider company, which shouldn't happen on a normal basis. and more than that, while on league, CSGO, etc the 30-50 ping changes can make a major difference, it really doesn't in graal. the advantage 50 ping gives you over someone with 100 ping is non existent, and anyone from america and even europe who has the normally lower than 300~ ping shouldn't suffer from major delay. people here keep calling out people for VPNing, when in reality most of those that all of you are calling out simply have a very bad routing to the server, which in some countries like Brazil and the Philippines is the best you're gonna get.  

It comes down to lack of incentive and the negatives basically outweigh the positives at every angle.  

Posted by Ouki

I will say it again, graal really needs to implement security in this game and put an ms limit to lets say 100ms to spar. Also make sparring have more tournaments and rewards.

This idea isn't the best, i'm sure that over 75% of players has a ping of 100ms or over. Graal is looking to increase the number of players rather than decrease the number. I think only americans has a ping that is under 100 so it would be extreamly un-fair to unable any other sparrer to queue. Yes we might have some delay but this is caused by the server so it's completely not our fault.
In addiotion, motivating players to spar by giving them rewards is a good idea. They already give top 50 players with the highest pts a trophie which could be counted as a reward. Also the NGS will provide rewards for sparrers, so admins are already working on providing rewards to Sparrers.

A good suggestion could be something like unable sparrers with a high unstable ping to queue in the spar. Because, this is when "warp" takes place, you only warp and lag when your ping is unstable. I'm sure that all sparers usually have a stable ping but, sometimes their wireless provider becomes unstable which is a bit rare to happen. I mean as many said, delay is predictable but lag isn't predictable and it only happens rarely to certain players. This suggestion will unable sparrers to queue while lagging. I'm not sure if such a thing is possible to be done but what i'm sure of is that everyone would love such an update.  

Posted by Saeed

This idea isn't the best, i'm sure that over 75% of players has a ping of 100ms or over. Graal is looking to increase the number of players rather than decrease the number. I think only americans has a ping that is under 100 so it would be extreamly un-fair to unable any other sparrer to queue. Yes we might have some delay but this is caused by the server so it's completely not our fault.
In addiotion, motivating players to spar by giving them rewards is a good idea. They already give top 50 players with the highest pts a trophie which could be counted as a reward. Also the NGS will provide rewards for sparrers, so admins are already working on providing rewards to Sparrers.

A good suggestion could be something like unable sparrers with a high unstable ping to queue in the spar. Because, this is when "warp" takes place, you only warp and lag when your ping is unstable. I'm sure that all sparers usually have a stable ping but, sometimes their wireless provider becomes unstable which is a bit rare to happen. I mean as many said, delay is predictable but lag isn't predictable and it only happens rarely to certain players. This suggestion will unable sparrers to queue while lagging. I'm not sure if such a thing is possible to be done but what i'm sure of is that everyone would love such an update.

I like the idea of having a ping limit, but 100ms seems a bit low. In fact, 100ms IS low. I think anyone with a ping exceeding the medium range, (I believe 125+) should not have the option of queuing. I've sparred hundreds and hundreds, if not thousands of people with 100+ms, and it really isn't bad.

My ping averages around 75-110ms, but there are 4-5 other people in my house who are all on the wifi at one time sometimes, and it can make my ping spike passed 150 at least. Oh well, it doesn't matter. People around the world may know that a few more people on at one time can spike your ms up, that's why I think a 100ms limit is too low.  

Posted by McCullough

I like the idea of having a ping limit, but 100ms seems a bit low. In fact, 100ms IS low. I think anyone with a ping exceeding the medium range, (I believe 125+) should not have the option of queuing. I've sparred hundreds and hundreds, if not thousands of people with 100+ms, and it really isn't bad.

My ping averages around 75-110ms, but there are 4-5 other people in my house who are all on the wifi at one time sometimes, and it can make my ping spike passed 150 at least. Oh well, it doesn't matter. People around the world may know that a few more people on at one time can spike your ms up, that's why I think a 100ms limit is too low.

150 ms might be too much for you but not for other countries. Personally I get 200-350 ms and that's on 4G. So does other Europeans. With the server lag it's impossible to implant something against lag, everyone lags sometimes even Americans.  

Posted by Sarah_

150 ms might be too much for you but not for other countries. Personally I get 200-350 ms and that's on 4G. So does other Europeans. With the server lag it's impossible to implant something against lag, everyone lags sometimes even Americans.

But as we said again, having a high stable ms don't makes u lag it only makes you delay. Believe it or not, even if you have a stabled 500ms you won't lag in the game, but ur delay will be huge, that's why sometimes we see players almost un-hittable then you find out that they have like 5 seconds delay?
That's why i disagree with the ms limit suggestion because it will only unable delayers from queueing. Un-stable ping=lag which rarely happens to a person unless if their connection provider is horrible like some brazlians and pinoys (no offense)
I'm not sure if the sever lag gives you an un-stabled ping, not going to comment on that. If the server lags give you un-stabled ping then i take it back, it would be best to leave spar as it is.  

Posted by Red

It comes down to lack of incentive and the negatives basically outweigh the positives at every angle.

I don't know what you are talking about?? Maybe if you stopped saying "lmao" everytime you lose a spar match, then it would be a start.
You are honestly one of those who is spreading negativity.

Posted by Asaiki

It's true, Delay makes sparring quite harder when I was maxing cap 100* before I moved to a province in philippines I was getting nice streaks and ratio I had a sparaccount with 4k - 2k.

Then now I sparred with my main 1.5k - 1.6k after a month or more.

I know there is a lot of people who is smart enough to figure out what is advantage and what is not. In theory delay should not be advantage, everybody is on same terms but reality isnt really the same.

When I was in Malaysia, I could streak to 20 without any problem and after being there, it became obvious how easy delaying makes it(honestly winning became much easier). There is other factors that comes on. The funny thing is that everything can be warping and laggy but for somebody else on their screen, It looks perfectly fine.

There is times where it can be an advantage for sure:
For example, we all know that a delayer's hits get registrered after some seconds. Lets say the delayer is facing somebody face to face c-style and suddenly the lag makes that (somebody) stop moving, the delayer gets an opportunity to hit and when the lag is gone, the hit is registrered.

Now you can just ask yourself can the big delayers do as good as they do without their delay? Yes they can can

Just kidding, they can't  

Posted by Jimbo

I don't know what you are talking about?? Maybe if you stopped saying "lmao" everytime you lose a spar match.

Jokes on you I don't even spar anymore, also I'm no carly I don't lmao anyone and everyone.

To be honest I'm not the one vpning and force lagging to gain an advantage in side rooms which deters anyone who is new from queing up.

(that is completely you)  

Soo I came back to spar and I've been rusty, I went to streak then I defeated the guy's standing then when we had to vs he has been speed hacking.

Speedhacking is what's destroying spar tbh, and boosters.