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CodyGraal · 12-02-2016

Posted by PigParty

Yes he did. And I gave my input. It was already derailed. I hope she sees it before the mod who is not to be named comes and deletes the long chain of posts. I clearly had no intentions of "controlling" the situation when I gave my post. I hadn't even read the later posts yet.

He who shall not be named

PigParty · 12-02-2016

Posted by CodyGraal

He who shall not be named

when you say his name, he appears!

phoebefibi · 12-02-2016

Posted by CodyGraal

I would much rather have Geno notifying the player base if fixing guns will be slow instead of keeping it a big secret like past management has done. I personally believe it was a good move on his part to tell them. We need communication to mend the bond between player and staff after all that's happened. You honestly can't hate on him for doing that and you can't hate on people who support his decision or bother reading his forums. I think Sylvi may have just misunderstood.

TY PIGGY!! and Cody is right! also, his last sentence was too kind of him!

Okayyy soo my point was, someone needs to fix or replace the test server coz it's affecting Geno's workflow which will also affect the output and time consumed just to rebalance everything. If he could balance the guns in game faster, he could finnish right away and focus on planning and developing projects instead. i just felt that fixing the test server should also be a priority too so gun stats does not need to take up alot of updates just to be finalized and for future Ga's to not have a hard time or potentially screwing the stats up!
I'm suggesting a long term solution for gun balancing problems! It's wayy more useful than just keep on telling GA to "change this change that" all the time when the test server itself is slowing down the process!

CodyGraal · 12-02-2016

Posted by phoebefibi

TY PIGGY!! and Cody is right! also, his last sentence was too kind of him!

Okayyy soo my point was, someone needs to fix or replace the test server coz it's affecting Geno's workflow which will also affect the output and time consumed just to rebalance everything. If he could balance the guns in game faster, he could finnish right away and focus on planning and developing projects instead. i just felt that fixing the test server should also be a priority too so gun stats does not need to take up alot of updates just to be finalized and for future Ga's to not have a hard time or potentially screwing the stats up!

I think the issue Chelt had with that is he was still a bit wary with giving Geno such a free range after what all had occurred surrounding Geno. I can't penalize Chelt for that because it's expected for anyone to be wary. However, I did suggest multiple times that he assigns someone to approve all actions Geno does or have a strict eye on him so we can rebuild trust with him. Lack of trust destroys a team

phoebefibi · 12-02-2016

Posted by CodyGraal

I think the issue Chelt had with that is he was still a bit wary with giving Geno such a free range after what all had occurred surrounding Geno. I can't penalize Chelt for that because it's expected for anyone to be wary. However, I did suggest multiple times that he assigns someone to approve all actions Geno does or have a strict eye on him so we can rebuild trust with him. Lack of trust destroys a team

i seee. well i hope silver takes ur suggestion!

CodyGraal · 12-02-2016

Posted by phoebefibi

i seee. well i hope silver takes ur suggestion!

Me too! It will definitely be a wise step in the right direction.

Sylvi · 12-02-2016

i stopped when geno said stop, when he tells someone to stop it means all of you should stop. and i put pig on ignore since he's just here to flame lol

are snipers on zone slow? i never seen it being used but i know era ones are pretty slow but powerful, so if snipers on zone is on par with spammable guns
i dont think that makes any sense

i only remember the old guns on pc zone, is there a sringe for medic? that thing you stab with people to heal them, that was cool af but it sucked when your team trolled you and healed enemy team with it lmao.. cant even team kill the medic trolls -.-

Weeno · 12-02-2016

There's pretty much no snipers on this game from what I know. Snipers would be nice but it doesn't make sense in a 2d game.

Off topic suggestion:

Spoiler

PigParty · 12-02-2016

There's a "sniper" but it's not even a sniper. Having a sniper in a 2D game is just dumb. It's just a way to make an OP gun that ruins gameplay. Zone has been about fast-paced PK. 2D snipers should stay out of Zone.

Kiri · 12-02-2016

i hate playing fps with long ranged one shot kill weapons.

i'm fine with the long range advantage and all but it's completely unnecessary for it to kill players in one shot.

Loop · 12-07-2016

If Zone is going to have snipers, their bullets should travel fast while giving off a reasonable high amount of damage and have really low ammunition.

PigParty · 12-07-2016

because everyone loves 2D shooter with super fast bullets that will kill you in one hit! Snipers have no place in Zone, or Graal.

GenoIndeed · 12-07-2016

They would never be 1 hit kills, 3-4 would be the lowest if anything. Im gonna make one just to test out the bullet speed scripts that i was gonna make with a scripter, ill have to see how balanced it is tho, but we already know itll have high damage so it would be released for either a really high price or in a special shop

List · 12-07-2016

off topic Suggestion: Maybe classes could all have abilitys to help eachother out and the comando abilty is to pull out a sniper with 4 shots. The bullets would go really fast but to load the next bullet takes like 5 seconds. The bullets would do 15 damage, meaning if you landed all 4 shots you kill somone. You'd get the Sniper when you kill 10 people without dying. If you do not get a Kill within 2 minutes then the Kill marker resets.

Yeah, this was off topic. Just suggesting something. If classes are to be the way they are now forever they shouLd be removed.

PigParty · 12-07-2016

Posted by GenoIndeed

They would never be 1 hit kills, 3-4 would be the lowest if anything. Im gonna make one just to test out the bullet speed scripts that i was gonna make with a scripter, ill have to see how balanced it is tho, but we already know itll have high damage so it would be released for either a really high price or in a special shop

so 2 hits in SD.

Oh god. Era, here we come!

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Weeno Guy who gets roasted Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: behind u Posts: 3,598	There's pretty much no snipers on this game from what I know. Snipers would be nice but it doesn't make sense in a 2d game. Off topic suggestion: Spoiler what if snipers changed the controls of shooting. Like instead of having to tap the fire button you just tap a part of the screen. Hope that makes sense

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Sylvi Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 51	i stopped when geno said stop, when he tells someone to stop it means all of you should stop. and i put pig on ignore since he's just here to flame lol are snipers on zone slow? i never seen it being used but i know era ones are pretty slow but powerful, so if snipers on zone is on par with spammable guns i dont think that makes any sense i only remember the old guns on pc zone, is there a sringe for medic? that thing you stab with people to heal them, that was cool af but it sucked when your team trolled you and healed enemy team with it lmao.. cant even team kill the medic trolls -.-

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PigParty PigParty🐷 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: PigPen Posts: 2,913	There's a "sniper" but it's not even a sniper. Having a sniper in a 2D game is just dumb. It's just a way to make an OP gun that ruins gameplay. Zone has been about fast-paced PK. 2D snipers should stay out of Zone.

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Kiri Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 55	i hate playing fps with long ranged one shot kill weapons. i'm fine with the long range advantage and all but it's completely unnecessary for it to kill players in one shot.

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Loop Wanderer Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 7	If Zone is going to have snipers, their bullets should travel fast while giving off a reasonable high amount of damage and have really low ammunition.

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GenoIndeed Dream Machine Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 761	They would never be 1 hit kills, 3-4 would be the lowest if anything. Im gonna make one just to test out the bullet speed scripts that i was gonna make with a scripter, ill have to see how balanced it is tho, but we already know itll have high damage so it would be released for either a really high price or in a special shop

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List Banned Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Jano Rassoul Posts: 228	off topic Suggestion: Maybe classes could all have abilitys to help eachother out and the comando abilty is to pull out a sniper with 4 shots. The bullets would go really fast but to load the next bullet takes like 5 seconds. The bullets would do 15 damage, meaning if you landed all 4 shots you kill somone. You'd get the Sniper when you kill 10 people without dying. If you do not get a Kill within 2 minutes then the Kill marker resets. Yeah, this was off topic. Just suggesting something. If classes are to be the way they are now forever they shouLd be removed.