I think too many guns were released at one time. They all look nice, however it becomes very hard to choose a "fitting" gun. And, why do they all have to be monochrome? Except for the SA80, they're all grey black. Anyway, good luck balancing all the issues that will come up from a massive release.

Is Meph still the guns admin?  

Posted by snk

Why no stock damage on shotguns? yw

Because of what Greg said and the hit registeration timer doesn't really affect them due to their firing speed: for example if a bar user and a pbp user stood and spammed into eachother the pbp user would win since many of the bars shots wouldn't register. Also shotguns should just be used for their spread not insane damage kind of like the blunderbuss or sawed shotgun. Basicially with stacked damage it's either OP or underpowered there doesn't seem to be a middle ground.  

Posted by Shock

Is Meph still the guns admin?

I have no idea, and I think meph didn't design these guns. I could be wrong though. As I heard Recurve was guns admin. Once again I may be wrong. There's just so much mystery that needs to be confirmed.  

All shotguns should have a base damage, no stack. Perhaps 6-8 base damage depending on rounds shot and spread.  

Posted by BabyGhost

I have no idea, and I think meph didn't design these guns. I could be wrong though. As I heard Recurve was guns admin. Once again I may be wrong. There's just so much mystery that needs to be confirmed.

Meph doesn't make guns. I'm fairly sure he quit due to personal terms. As for the PL9 i'll have a look at it today  

Posted by Ventus277

All shotguns should have a base damage, no stack. Perhaps 6-8 base damage depending on rounds shot and spread.

Maybe add knockback if multiple bullets hit, so it prevents people from rushing shotguns.  

Pl9 got a buff.

+Increased rate of fire
+ Slightly less freeze (I think)

Thanks Bitzsam.  

Posted by bobo

Maybe add knockback if multiple bullets hit, so it prevents people from rushing shotguns.

You're on to something there, but it would still have to be a 30-50% if all did hit on that imo.

Off topic is anyone working on fixing the push system? I got alot of money recently just as the system went down and am missing alot of auctions. I don't have time to afk and wait .-.  

Posted by bobo

Maybe add knockback if multiple bullets hit, so it prevents people from rushing shotguns.

But knock back stuns the person, allowing the shotgun to move in closer and shoot more, dealing more damage.  

To be honest, they need to show exact stats of a weapon when you buy them/see them in your inventory.  

i think pl9 still needs a buff or m3 a nerf as m3/ starter shotgun can outgun it  

Posted by T-10a

To be honest, they need to show exact stats of a weapon when you buy them/see them in your inventory.

This.  

Posted by BabyGhost

I have no idea, and I think meph didn't design these guns. I could be wrong though. As I heard Recurve was guns admin. Once again I may be wrong. There's just so much mystery that needs to be confirmed.

Talked to an admin (forgot his name, G1-something) the other day. Aparently Recurvez and BitzSam are sharing the gun admin spot.

Might be wrong.  

Posted by Shock

Aparently Recurvez and BitzSam are sharing the gun admin spot.

Might be wrong.

Actually, you might be correct. If I heard that Recurve is guns admin, and Bitzsam's title says he's also guns admin, they're probably both guns admin.

I kinda miss Meph though. The last thing I've seen from him was his flamethrower.  

Posted by [C&C]Nick

Mention the pbp to cus the m3 shouldn't even be in the same class as the pbp

well shucks I wonder why