Is PC Graal outdated?

Vladamir Blackthorne · 11-25-2015

I just realized, Graal, moreso on PC, was built and advertised with a certain something in mind- providing powerful yet simple tools for making mmo games. But since this isn't pre-2007ish anymore I would say that bigger, better, even more accessable engines are out their for a broad range of games. Graal was probably ahead of it's time only for a little bit. Nowadays things like Unreal Engine 4 and RPG Maker MV blow it out of the water.

What do you guys think? Has Graal fallen behind? Does Unixmad need to re-evaluate which direction it should go in?

Eugeen · 11-25-2015

Graal hasn't really fallen behind as it provides what it is supposed to provide, a 2D MMORPG game.
Yes graal could use more features and such but it'd require a lot of work to compete with those powerful engines and doesn't seem worth it for what graal currently is

Vladamir Blackthorne · 11-25-2015

Posted by iBubble

Graal hasn't really fallen behind as it provides what it is supposed to provide, a 2D MMORPG game.
Yes graal could use more features and such but it'd require a lot of work to compete with those powerful engines and doesn't seem worth it for what graal currently is

I'm more on the fence now that you make your point with this. Especially now that you've brought up the 2D MMORPG thing. Graal certainly needs more flexibility. As it is you kinda HAVE to make it 2D, not only because of performance issues but due to how animations are generally hard to make as seamless as possible, especially on players.

5hift · 11-25-2015

I feel Graal PC is superior to iGraal in many ways except playerbase.

There are some genuinely interesting features to PC Graal that iGraal barely even achieves.

Alexmo · 11-25-2015

I never really got to play pc graal but I say why not port graal to consoles

Eugeen · 11-26-2015

In theory it's possible to fully recreate the graal engine to a 3D environment with all basic graal features and more, I don't think anyone would ever be willing to code that though as it'd take ages and it'd be quite the waste of time if no money is being made off of it. (Even as application it'd most likely end up as being just another server and have a too low playercount to succesfully progress for multiple years)

Sardon · 11-26-2015

Pc graal masterace

Skyzer · 11-26-2015

GraalOnline wasn't advertised. When people tried to advertise it Unixmad would harass those people until they stopped.

Racil · 11-27-2015

PC Graal was neglected for years which made it difficult attracting new players while old players moved on, the lack of support and dwindling playercount eventually made developers leave, which in turn led to further decreases in the playercount.
It doesn't help that they have to compete with the iServers that have a much larger playercount and are more easily accessible.
I think the pc servers could do well again, but at this point it'd need more than just fixing the client. It is mostly up to if the players decide to stick around or not.

Rekkles · 12-03-2015

People play it mainly on IOS,android and other portible devs mainly now but I wouldn't say it's outdated

Distorted_P2P · 12-03-2015

Posted by Rekkles

People play it mainly on IOS,android and other portible devs mainly now but I wouldn't say it's outdated

You don't even know what PC Graal is homie

Rekkles · 12-03-2015

I do m8 i play on litterally all devs :p

Skyzer · 12-03-2015

Posted by Rekkles

I do m8 i play on litterally all devs :p

What the **** does that even mean?

Grief Hero · 12-03-2015

Posted by 19112526518

What the **** does that even mean?

he a playa on all devs, thats wha, f00

Red · 12-03-2015

did you really only just pick up on this?

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Vladamir Blackthorne Leg hair. AND RICE! Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Do you really wish to know o.o Posts: 2,803	Is PC Graal outdated? I just realized, Graal, moreso on PC, was built and advertised with a certain something in mind- providing powerful yet simple tools for making mmo games. But since this isn't pre-2007ish anymore I would say that bigger, better, even more accessable engines are out their for a broad range of games. Graal was probably ahead of it's time only for a little bit. Nowadays things like Unreal Engine 4 and RPG Maker MV blow it out of the water. What do you guys think? Has Graal fallen behind? Does Unixmad need to re-evaluate which direction it should go in?

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Eugeen Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,173	Graal hasn't really fallen behind as it provides what it is supposed to provide, a 2D MMORPG game. Yes graal could use more features and such but it'd require a lot of work to compete with those powerful engines and doesn't seem worth it for what graal currently is

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5hift ✔️TURBO✔️VERIFIED✔️ Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Larunda Relay Posts: 6,481	I feel Graal PC is superior to iGraal in many ways except playerbase. There are some genuinely interesting features to PC Graal that iGraal barely even achieves.

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Alexmo Banned Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: I live in a place on a place Posts: 1,464	I never really got to play pc graal but I say why not port graal to consoles

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Eugeen Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,173	In theory it's possible to fully recreate the graal engine to a 3D environment with all basic graal features and more, I don't think anyone would ever be willing to code that though as it'd take ages and it'd be quite the waste of time if no money is being made off of it. (Even as application it'd most likely end up as being just another server and have a too low playercount to succesfully progress for multiple years)

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Sardon Deus Vult Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Le Canada Posts: 3,811	Pc graal masterace

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Skyzer Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Hampshire, United States Posts: 3,135	GraalOnline wasn't advertised. When people tried to advertise it Unixmad would harass those people until they stopped.

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Racil Classic Developer Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 52	PC Graal was neglected for years which made it difficult attracting new players while old players moved on, the lack of support and dwindling playercount eventually made developers leave, which in turn led to further decreases in the playercount. It doesn't help that they have to compete with the iServers that have a much larger playercount and are more easily accessible. I think the pc servers could do well again, but at this point it'd need more than just fixing the client. It is mostly up to if the players decide to stick around or not.

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Rekkles Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: North England Posts: 302	People play it mainly on IOS,android and other portible devs mainly now but I wouldn't say it's outdated

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Red Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 3,255	did you really only just pick up on this?