12 clip would make it suck since youll pause too often, like with the snow rifle. And the rof shouldnt increase since its already insanely spammable. But please raise the price.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

that statement is false, if the reloading system works exactly like eras does, then the gani cuts off. If you had to go through a full gun gani, the reload times in era would be triple what they are now.

That may be true but all weapons have the exact same reload timing to make things fair, but the previous stats you posted would make the gun horrible

12 clip - No because most 12 clips are horrible for non expirienced, and IMO i hate all 12 clips when they clip of flower gun a 10,000 gralat gun went from 18 to 12 it became horrible


increased ROF to give it a atrocious ROF at the price of reloading every 3 seconds - If you havent noticed zone runs around CONSISTANT spam in which player can actuall control their wave in bullets if it were to have firerate of like .04 that will make a the gun not even usable since the ROF is counted in hundredths of a second so ever .04hundredths of a second a bullet will shoot which is EXTREMELY FAST ESPECIALLY WITH A 12 CLIP so the gun will not even be able to be playable in terms of being able to counted as "competitive". I myself love to count my clip but with a " atrocious firerate" I wont be able to do that.

18 clip is more prefer'd in the zone community and a firerate non atrocious is also prefere'd so maybe a .2 firerate  

Posted by Bleck3v3

That may be true but all weapons have the exact same reload timing to make things fair, but the previous stats you posted would make the gun horrible

12 clip - No because most 12 clips are horrible for non expirienced, and IMO i hate all 12 clips when they clip of flower gun a 10,000 gralat gun went from 18 to 12 it became horrible


increased ROF to give it a atrocious ROF at the price of reloading every 3 seconds - If you havent noticed zone runs around CONSISTANT spam in which player can actuall control their wave in bullets if it were to have firerate of like .04 that will make a the gun not even usable since the ROF is counted in hundredths of a second so ever .04hundredths of a second a bullet will shoot which is EXTREMELY FAST ESPECIALLY WITH A 12 CLIP so the gun will not even be able to be playable in terms of being able to counted as "competitive". I myself love to count my clip but with a " atrocious firerate" I wont be able to do that.

18 clip is more prefer'd in the zone community and a firerate non atrocious is also prefere'd so maybe a .2 firerate

12 clip + .15 ROF buff = completely nessacary,
This is by my mentality like the FAMAS in bf3. The weapon had miserable recoil, long reload, short clip, and abysmal spread, but in return you got 1000 RPM making it a automatic winner at close ranges and it felt like you were cheating thats how much of an advantage you had. But if you could master the FAMAS and get around all of those drawbacks. Holy **** the gun was ****ing amazing as it worked like a AN94 of the 2 very rapid shots making it a beast at long ranges. This translates to the APR 12 clip how?

cons
12 clip
not spam-able

pros
1 less btk
higher damage
fastest DPS
fastest t2k

that right there, is still well worth the 45k because IF you can land your shots, you will win 90% of the time plus you have a advantage over the normal gun because of the 1 less b2k. Still well worth the 45k. Also, it adds in a new play style that is only available on one gun and thats the grass gun. If you are good with the grass gun, i got really good with that gun as my secondary and let me tell you, its a beast gun, then imagine a grass gun with 7 damage and how much that would destroy. Now tell me how that is not worth the 45k  

The gun still has to be good, yes a weakness aswell (low clip NOT EXTREMELY LOW)  

i like how everyone's getting statstical and I'm just here thinking it shoots fast and it looks cookl  

Posted by Bleck3v3

The gun still has to be good, yes a weakness aswell (low clip NOT EXTREMELY LOW)

extremely low 12 works since 6 shots makes a massive difference + you be able to kill 2 people with it like all other guns so were back to square one.  

The stats are exactly the same as they were when we released them. The rippers will not be buffed ever.  

Posted by Tashkin

The stats are exactly the same as they were when we released them. The rippers will not be buffed ever.

you a lying foo. The damage WAS 6.5. Its now 7. It really didn't do anything though. Just please don't lie  

The excel sheet is literally what zone uses to compile its guns, he did no changes to the ap rippers they've always been 7 damage  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

you a lying foo. The damage WAS 6.5. Its now 7. It really didn't do anything though. Just please don't lie

It might have just been just errors in gun desc.  

It was advertised at 6.5 damage though at launch. Thats my problem