Posted by kenovo

Ok I'm going to try and go as in-depth as I can here. This is my personal opinion on how Factions should be added to Zone.


FACTIONS
A unique team/system in place aside from Squads. They allow more in-depth gameplay and are excluded from Basing. You would join one Faction and be loyal to them. If you don't participate in Faction activities for amount of days, you would be removed from the Faction and lose your spot (will explain more later on).


WHAT WOULD FACTIONS HAVE?
All Factions would have different themes and fighting styles. Each Faction would have 1 Home Planet that is unique to them and benefits themselves. This would include type of environment, baddies, weapons, and layout. Aside from a Home Planet, each Faction would have different leveling classes, and when leveling up they are able to gain new equipment/items that only they can use.


FACTION GAMEPLAY?
Factions would have their own solar system. In the Faction Solar System there would be Home Planets for every Faction (THIS IS WHERE FACTIONS WOULD ATTACK AND DEFEND THEIR PLANET) and 1 "peace treaty" planet where you can discuss with other Factions and talk about attack techniques (Maybe to team up and take over a Faction?!). Each Faction has a certain amount of players. These players are expected to take part in Faction Activities. A system would be in place that logs which players seem to be "clogging" up space in a Faction and remove them. They would not lose their progress with that Faction, but would if they joined a different Faction.


EXAMPLE OF BATTLE
Extraterrestrial Faction attacks Star Faction.

Extraterrestrial Faction has 10 Players attacking the Star Faction. Star Faction has 10 Players defending their Planet.

BATTLE BEGINS! 5 minute timer.

The Star Faction is warped to their Main Room (let's say a control panel room that is controlling their planet). Extraterrestrial Faction is warped onto the planet's outside.

The Extraterrestrial Faction must now maneuver through Star Faction's planet and destroy their Control Panel before time runs out. If the 5 minute timer runs out and the mission is failed. Star Faction receives a gralat prize reward and experience that goes towards leveling up in the Faction for defending. If the Extraterrestrial Faction breaks and destroys the Control Panel before the 5 minute timer runs out then the Extraterrestrial Faction would receive a gralat prize reward and experience that goes towards leveling up in the Faction for successfully attacking.


This is my general idea for Factions which seems both fun and time investing to me.

Hmm this sounds really interesting! :o Those names though :S Here's my ideas for way you said :0

-"Corrasant" ("Peace treaty" Described in kenovos post. It is the city/Capitol planet)
It could be all new, or a modification to Sky World (would be perrrrfect!!) Graalians are the main inhabitors, factions recruit (and have a cool hangout :0?!) here, but control various parts of the galaxy.) Sqauds battle to control the far corners of this planet (so it'll be the same basically, with recruitment centers & factions meeting peacefully to talk)

-"Endor" (Faction Planet; mostly melee, bow (there are some, right?) and fist fighting oriented. It is the tree/woodsy planet)
It could be all new, or a modification to Chronos (making the woods thicker (and pine trees please!!!!,) add primitive dwellings, and natives (bearish looking, primative weapons) wooden weapons sold here :0 There'll be an imperial type building tucked in the woods (see sw 6) for you to attack the controlling faction (this is their control center).

-"Tatooine" ("Factionless Planet" Squads fight to own this planet, through controls parts of it. People who choose to fly solo, and control their own squad, filled with other freebirds. Best for those who want to use every weapon, and don't care for gear; It is the sand planet)
This would be perfect to add bounty hunting (given a picture of the person needed killed, and they are told 'which planet they were last seen on'. They would then go to that planet and search for the person depicted in the picture. This would be a cool place to add metal detecting for items under the sand) this planet is a melting pot of all different species, and should depicted as a 'used future'. Robot bomys sold here!! Would keep squads alive, and co-exist!

-"Mustafar" (Faction Planet; boom boom weapons. They use grenades, grenade launchers, and other big cannon-like, "get the job done" guns. It is the lava planet)
This would be simple, add buildings to lava planet, indoors, and maybe a more humanoid native species? And obviously the control center to attack the controlling faction.

-Death Star (Faction-Sqaud planet; 'man-made' planet) although you may think other wise, this is no moon. It is an entirely indoor, man-made planet. Some factions seek to take control of unique planet (which would open up a whole lot of opportunties! You could make money in the weapons factory, repairing robot bomys, etc. Plently of role playing opportunties here; detention block (jail), mess hall, training course for "space troopers", etc. You could sell "space troopers" suits, unique weapons, unique bomys, etc. Every thing is dark here, and there is a lot of light elements on things. I'm sure others will have much better ideas for this place. Both Factions and Squads can participate on this masterpiece! Each can control a floor of it.

-Hoth (Faction Planet, they use mostly laser guns, since they function better than classic guns in extreme cold; ice planet) edited Iciria, with mounted turrets through out, insides, more structures, two legged horses (classic-esque horse? :0) And control center. (Igloos? 8) )

-Naboo (Faction Planet, mostly classic guns & nature weapons; water/ classic planet) this would be mostly underwater, so you'll need to buy/ "obtain" a breather. Fish-like inhabitants (zorbis and zorbas :0?) with domes you can enter. And the little parts that are above ground closely resemble bits and pieces of some place called 'Classic' but most of it is destroyed, by what appears to be giant graalians (based on the giant footprints) and big hammer impressions :0 you can go fishing off of the land here, into the water. Be careful not to snag a local!

That's all that I could think of off of the top of my head! And factions will get different weapons for what is currently available as well. All, if not most, planets have a few shops (some with unique items, maybe you could get an hourly amount of gralats for each planet your faction controls (income from the shops)), at least one job, and a place where factions can duke it out for planetary control! (And squads fight over which parts of the planet they want?) Obviously the planets are going to be fairly small, and (hopefully) each will all have their own purpose besides just factions! I hope the above will be a good balance for squads and factions!

Posted by wildkeldeo

Factions???

What if I'm Divergent?!?!

Then read my post ;p  

http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23437

Several Adjustments

Posted by kenovo

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FACTIONS
A unique team/system in place aside from Squads. They allow more in-depth gameplay and are excluded from Basing. You would join one Faction and be loyal to them. If you don't participate in Faction activities for amount of days, you would be removed from the Faction and lose your spot (will explain more later on).

Alright, I like this except for the point where you will be removed from the faction if you do not participate in events. It should be moved down a rank (assuming ranks are included.). Inactivity should be a harsh punishment, as then you would have to work your way up again through the ranks or join a new one. Also, I assume that factions are set (cannot be created/destroyed,), have no leaders (except possibly staff if leaders are needed).

Posted by kenovo

WHAT WOULD FACTIONS HAVE?
All Factions would have different themes and fighting styles. Each Faction would have 1 Home Planet that is unique to them and benefits themselves. This would include type of environment, baddies, weapons, and layout. Aside from a Home Planet, each Faction would have different leveling classes, and when leveling up they are able to gain new equipment/items that only they can use.

I love this idea!

Posted by kenovo

FACTION GAMEPLAY?
Factions would have their own solar system. In the Faction Solar System there would be Home Planets for every Faction (THIS IS WHERE FACTIONS WOULD ATTACK AND DEFEND THEIR PLANET) and 1 "peace treaty" planet where you can discuss with other Factions and talk about attack techniques (Maybe to team up and take over a Faction?!). Each Faction has a certain amount of players. These players are expected to take part in Faction Activities. A system would be in place that logs which players seem to be "clogging" up space in a Faction and remove them. They would not lose their progress with that Faction, but would if they joined a different Faction.

Factions should have limitless 'space', however inactivity should = faction exp to deteriorate over time.

Posted by kenovo

EXAMPLE OF BATTLE
Extraterrestrial Faction attacks Star Faction.

Extraterrestrial Faction has 10 Players attacking the Star Faction. Star Faction has 10 Players defending their Planet.

BATTLE BEGINS! 5 minute timer.

The Star Faction is warped to their Main Room (let's say a control panel room that is controlling their planet). Extraterrestrial Faction is warped onto the planet's outside.

The Extraterrestrial Faction must now maneuver through Star Faction's planet and destroy their Control Panel before time runs out. If the 5 minute timer runs out and the mission is failed. Star Faction receives a gralat prize reward and experience that goes towards leveling up in the Faction for defending. If the Extraterrestrial Faction breaks and destroys the Control Panel before the 5 minute timer runs out then the Extraterrestrial Faction would receive a gralat prize reward and experience that goes towards leveling up in the Faction for successfully attacking.

I love this!

Extra Features I have thought of:

• Faction Exp (or Loyalty Points?)!This is the equivalent of ranks, except implemented to not give a player a sense of inferioty/superioty as ranks would do. More exp = higher levels = more rights/powers/stuff!
• Faction Crimes! These take away exp and add to traitor points. They include: Inactivity, killing a member of your faction, breaking a Faction Law, etc.
• Traitor Points! Traitor points are a counter of how much a player has betrayed their Faction. Reaching a certain number of points would see the player be removed from the Faction they were in.
• Faction Poll! When a new faction rule would like to be made, the whole Faction has to vote in the poll. It would last over a few days, and at least 51% of the Faction has to want the law to be in place. Of course, this might be dodgy and corrupted.

 

Posted by Sir

Hmm this sounds really interesting! :o Those names though :S Here's my ideas for way you said :0

-"Corrasant" ("Peace treaty" Described in kenovos post. It is the city/Capitol planet)
It could be all new, or a modification to Sky World (would be perrrrfect!!) Graalians are the main inhabitors, factions recruit (and have a cool hangout :0?!) here, but control various parts of the galaxy.) Sqauds battle to control the far corners of this planet (so it'll be the same basically, with recruitment centers & factions meeting peacefully to talk)

-"Endor" (Faction Planet; mostly melee, bow (there are some, right?) and fist fighting oriented. It is the tree/woodsy planet)
It could be all new, or a modification to Chronos (making the woods thicker (and pine trees please!!!!,) add primitive dwellings, and natives (bearish looking, primative weapons) wooden weapons sold here :0 There'll be an imperial type building tucked in the woods (see sw 6) for you to attack the controlling faction (this is their control center).

-"Tatooine" ("Factionless Planet" Squads fight to own this planet, through controls parts of it. People who choose to fly solo, and control their own squad, filled with other freebirds. Best for those who want to use every weapon, and don't care for gear; It is the sand planet)
This would be perfect to add bounty hunting (given a picture of the person needed killed, and they are told 'which planet they were last seen on'. They would then go to that planet and search for the person depicted in the picture. This would be a cool place to add metal detecting for items under the sand) this planet is a melting pot of all different species, and should depicted as a 'used future'. Robot bomys sold here!! Would keep squads alive, and co-exist!

-"Mustafar" (Faction Planet; boom boom weapons. They use grenades, grenade launchers, and other big cannon-like, "get the job done" guns. It is the lava planet)
This would be simple, add buildings to lava planet, indoors, and maybe a more humanoid native species? And obviously the control center to attack the controlling faction.

-Death Star (Faction-Sqaud planet; 'man-made' planet) although you may think other wise, this is no moon. It is an entirely indoor, man-made planet. Some factions seek to take control of unique planet (which would open up a whole lot of opportunties! You could make money in the weapons factory, repairing robot bomys, etc. Plently of role playing opportunties here; detention block (jail), mess hall, training course for "space troopers", etc. You could sell "space troopers" suits, unique weapons, unique bomys, etc. Every thing is dark here, and there is a lot of light elements on things. I'm sure others will have much better ideas for this place. Both Factions and Squads can participate on this masterpiece! Each can control a floor of it.

-Hoth (Faction Planet, they use mostly laser guns, since they function better than classic guns in extreme cold; ice planet) edited Iciria, with mounted turrets through out, insides, more structures, two legged horses (classic-esque horse? :0) And control center. (Igloos? 8) )

-Naboo (Faction Planet, mostly classic guns & nature weapons; water/ classic planet) this would be mostly underwater, so you'll need to buy/ "obtain" a breather. Fish-like inhabitants (zorbis and zorbas :0?) with domes you can enter. And the little parts that are above ground closely resemble bits and pieces of some place called 'Classic' but most of it is destroyed, by what appears to be giant graalians (based on the giant footprints) and big hammer impressions :0 you can go fishing off of the land here, into the water. Be careful not to snag a local!

That's all that I could think of off of the top of my head! And factions will get different weapons for what is currently available as well. All, if not most, planets have a few shops (some with unique items, maybe you could get an hourly amount of gralats for each planet your faction controls (income from the shops)), at least one job, and a place where factions can duke it out for planetary control! (And squads fight over which parts of the planet they want?) Obviously the planets are going to be fairly small, and (hopefully) each will all have their own purpose besides just factions! I hope the above will be a good balance for squads and factions!



Then read my post ;p

100% support the faction names  

Posted by Platinum

http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23437

Several Adjustments

Alright, I like this except for the point where you will be removed from the faction if you do not participate in events. It should be moved down a rank (assuming ranks are included.). Inactivity should be a harsh punishment, as then you would have to work your way up again through the ranks or join a new one. Also, I assume that factions are set (cannot be created/destroyed,), have no leaders (except possibly staff if leaders are needed).
I love this idea!

Factions should have limitless 'space', however inactivity should = faction exp to deteriorate over time.


I love this!

Extra Features I have thought of:

• Faction Exp (or Loyalty Points?)!This is the equivalent of ranks, except implemented to not give a player a sense of inferioty/superioty as ranks would do. More exp = higher levels = more rights/powers/stuff!
• Faction Crimes! These take away exp and add to traitor points. They include: Inactivity, killing a member of your faction, breaking a Faction Law, etc.
• Traitor Points! Traitor points are a counter of how much a player has betrayed their Faction. Reaching a certain number of points would see the player be removed from the Faction they were in.
• Faction Poll! When a new faction rule would like to be made, the whole Faction has to vote in the poll. It would last over a few days, and at least 51% of the Faction has to want the law to be in place. Of course, this might be dodgy and corrupted.

Hmm i actually agree with you in limitless space, but it was said there was going to be a limit. I guess its a bad and good kind of situation. Limit= Fairness in amount of each Faction. No Limit= More friendly to anyone and allows more people and activity  

Posted by Tashkin

I am not sure that we have enough players to support 6 factions right now. We could possibly start out with 4 factions. This would keep the teams fairly even.

My questions our should we make players choose a faction and they have to stay on that faction permanently. This could be bad in my opinion in-case friends change or they were forced to join this faction due to another one already having to many players.

Players should be able to switch factions

Should we make it so they have to pay to leave their faction on join another one. (I support this obviously) We would want to make it a decent amount because we don't want players switching factions constantly.

I agree with this; players should pay to leave factions, but not to join. The first faction a player joins is completely free, however, if they switch factions they would have to pay a fee (in gralats)

I think if we go the second route that items from the previous faction should obviously be removed from the player. Don't need non-faction members using another factions weapons.

I agree with this, too, players that aren't in a faction shouldn't be able to use items from a faction

We need to get a list of possible ideas for doing this system. What exactly should each faction do? Where should they do their task? Should the factions level up? Should the player in the faction game levels within the faction? Etc.

The way i thought of this when i heard the idea is like a gang system. You start out with some lower leveled commanders, and as you complete like a daily quest, PK, or kill mobs (mobs should be added), your standing with them increases. When you max out the level on the first person, you are given a piece of the unique faction gear, and introduced to the next one. The daily quest given would differ from faction to faction and from commander to commander, until you meet the "gang boss" or head commander.

How can we get players to actually participate in this? A lot of players go out an do their own thing. If we were to have factions we would need to make sure that this is actually being used. So this is a very important thing to discuss. Answers like oh don't worry they will do it are not enough.

Daily quests (as stated above) could give rewards that players would need in their daily player life, such as minerals, ZC, Gralats, etc. That, and the gear rewards (havent thought of any specifics yet) need to be good enough that players want to put in the time to earn it.

If you want me to take this seriously then you all will need to as well. Otherwise I will not waste my time nor my staffs time even thinking about this system. So start discussing and keep this thread on topic and clean of arguments and vulgar language. It will not be tolerated and will be seen as not taking any of this seriously. Think about it and discuss. I will watch this thread.

tl;dr: Read it anyway you need to.

Answers are in bold  

Posted by Tashkin

I could set up locations on the skyworld that factions "control".

Oh no way. Factions are for massive scale warfare. Let squads do that and make the control skyzone. Allow them though to control graalet flow so after someone makes a purchase, they get 15% of the profit divided by the amount of online players. Plus squads also get a roundly 100$ income every 10 minutes a base is held. That number adds on every single base hold. So 2 bases = 200  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Oh no way. Factions are for massive scale warfare. Let squads do that and make the control skyzone. Allow them though to control graalet flow so after someone makes a purchase, they get 15% of the profit divided by the amount of online players. Plus squads also get a roundly 100$ income every 10 minutes a base is held. That number adds on every single base hold. So 2 bases = 200

"FREE MONEY?! YOU WANT US TO GIVE PLAYERS FREE MONEY WHEN SOMEONE PAYS FOR THEIR MONEY?! AHAHAHHAHAAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHH A ****ING NUB"

-Stephane Portha, 2014  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Oh no way. Factions are for massive scale warfare. Let squads do that and make the control skyzone. Allow them though to control graalet flow so after someone makes a purchase, they get 15% of the profit divided by the amount of online players. Plus squads also get a roundly 100$ income every 10 minutes a base is held. That number adds on every single base hold. So 2 bases = 200

That's not going to happen. x.x  

Posted by Sir

Hmm this sounds really interesting! :o Those names though :S Here's my ideas for way you said :0

-"Corrasant" ("Peace treaty" Described in kenovos post. It is the city/Capitol planet)
It could be all new, or a modification to Sky World (would be perrrrfect!!) Graalians are the main inhabitors, factions recruit (and have a cool hangout :0?!) here, but control various parts of the galaxy.) Sqauds battle to control the far corners of this planet (so it'll be the same basically, with recruitment centers & factions meeting peacefully to talk)

-"Endor" (Faction Planet; mostly melee, bow (there are some, right?) and fist fighting oriented. It is the tree/woodsy planet)
It could be all new, or a modification to Chronos (making the woods thicker (and pine trees please!!!!,) add primitive dwellings, and natives (bearish looking, primative weapons) wooden weapons sold here :0 There'll be an imperial type building tucked in the woods (see sw 6) for you to attack the controlling faction (this is their control center).

-"Tatooine" ("Factionless Planet" Squads fight to own this planet, through controls parts of it. People who choose to fly solo, and control their own squad, filled with other freebirds. Best for those who want to use every weapon, and don't care for gear; It is the sand planet)
This would be perfect to add bounty hunting (given a picture of the person needed killed, and they are told 'which planet they were last seen on'. They would then go to that planet and search for the person depicted in the picture. This would be a cool place to add metal detecting for items under the sand) this planet is a melting pot of all different species, and should depicted as a 'used future'. Robot bomys sold here!! Would keep squads alive, and co-exist!

-"Mustafar" (Faction Planet; boom boom weapons. They use grenades, grenade launchers, and other big cannon-like, "get the job done" guns. It is the lava planet)
This would be simple, add buildings to lava planet, indoors, and maybe a more humanoid native species? And obviously the control center to attack the controlling faction.

-Death Star (Faction-Sqaud planet; 'man-made' planet) although you may think other wise, this is no moon. It is an entirely indoor, man-made planet. Some factions seek to take control of unique planet (which would open up a whole lot of opportunties! You could make money in the weapons factory, repairing robot bomys, etc. Plently of role playing opportunties here; detention block (jail), mess hall, training course for "space troopers", etc. You could sell "space troopers" suits, unique weapons, unique bomys, etc. Every thing is dark here, and there is a lot of light elements on things. I'm sure others will have much better ideas for this place. Both Factions and Squads can participate on this masterpiece! Each can control a floor of it.

-Hoth (Faction Planet, they use mostly laser guns, since they function better than classic guns in extreme cold; ice planet) edited Iciria, with mounted turrets through out, insides, more structures, two legged horses (classic-esque horse? :0) And control center. (Igloos? 8) )

-Naboo (Faction Planet, mostly classic guns & nature weapons; water/ classic planet) this would be mostly underwater, so you'll need to buy/ "obtain" a breather. Fish-like inhabitants (zorbis and zorbas :0?) with domes you can enter. And the little parts that are above ground closely resemble bits and pieces of some place called 'Classic' but most of it is destroyed, by what appears to be giant graalians (based on the giant footprints) and big hammer impressions :0 you can go fishing off of the land here, into the water. Be careful not to snag a local!

That's all that I could think of off of the top of my head! And factions will get different weapons for what is currently available as well. All, if not most, planets have a few shops (some with unique items, maybe you could get an hourly amount of gralats for each planet your faction controls (income from the shops)), at least one job, and a place where factions can duke it out for planetary control! (And squads fight over which parts of the planet they want?) Obviously the planets are going to be fairly small, and (hopefully) each will all have their own purpose besides just factions! I hope the above will be a good balance for squads and factions!



Then read my post ;p

I love this idea and I love the Star Wars planet names but I hope that isn't considered copyrighting  

Posted by Ares

I love this idea and I love the Star Wars planet names but I hope that isn't considered copyrighting

Just because Zone is based in the future/space, it does not mean that everything has to be from Star Wars and other comic-con features.  

Posted by kenovo

For Factions, I believe there should be a whole new Solar System for it. One basic Idle planet where Factions can meet up and be in peace. Then of course, each Faction's very own planet. Where they hideout, protect, and plan their attack against other Factions. It would act like Basing in a whole new way, which would allow rewards other than items and gear as well. Each individual planet could also inhabit their own type of minion that would fight for them to keep away other factions.


Faction Ideas:

Faction 1; Fire
Description; There's always an evil lurking, the devil of the Factions. They are the most feared Faction out of them all. They sustain a powerful anarchy and lash out at their enemies with all they've got. Their gear is untouchable by others due to a strange fire-like aura that cloaks around them. Beware of the Fire Faction, they will kill without remorse.

Faction 2; Earth
Description; The Earth Faction are more past times. They like to keep things simple and original. Some say they are part of Skyworld and with that comes perks. They are able to become one with the ground they stand on are excellent trackers. Beware of the Earth Faction, they can blend it with their surroundings and stealthily attack their enemies.

Faction 3; Water
Description; The Water Faction are said to be able to swim deep within the ocean. Since their planet is almost entirely water, this is a superb advantage. It is even said that their sky sharks kill their prey with one vicious bite. Beware of the Water Faction; their weapons aquatically advanced!


I would go on, but I'm assuming you got the idea. This is just a basic idea I had in mind, and the Factions would definitely be futuristic based rather than elements.

Wheres wind. I want wind.  

Posted by Tashkin

That's not going to happen. x.x

why not? it would actually give an incentive for people to join a squad and base.  

If only tashkin had a bigger mind for imagination  

Posted by Platinum

Just because Zone is based in the future/space, it does not mean that everything has to be from Star Wars and other comic-con features.

I didn't say anything like that, his planet names were from star wars, hoth, tattooing,and others, I never said it had to be star wars, I just said I like these names. And the planets.There isn't that much star wars themed things on zone anyways, besides sabers, I don't see why nothing could be star wars themed  

Posted by Ares

I didn't say anything like that, his planet names were from star wars, hoth, tattooing,and others, I never said it had to be star wars, I just said I like these names. And the planets.There isn't that much star wars themed things on zone anyways, besides sabers, I don't see why nothing could be star wars themed

Copying names from Star Wars just seems a bit lazy to me. And why would we name factions after planets? I think that we should think the names up on our own.