Should an Admin be allowed to own a gang?

K!LLA KEV · 02-01-2013

I think this could be a good debate.

Should an Admin be allowed to own and operate a gang, within the server they are administrating?

plz explain why or why not.

would like to hear everyone's opinons.

Dope* · 02-01-2013

Why shouldn't they be allowed? its no harm for them to own a gang.

Admiral · 02-01-2013

Of course, as long as they don't do it on their staff accounts then I don't see a problem with it.

Niko sK · 02-01-2013

I think so yes there is really no problem with an admin owning a gang

but in some cases no

HomoPanda · 02-01-2013

Lol at this....

K!LLA KEV · 02-01-2013

i asked for explanations.

would it be fair if a referee played on a football or basketball team in the league they are a referee in? How about an umpire playing for a baseball team in the league they umpped for?

graal is very similar in the sense of the competition within the game. And an admin owning a gang is an unfair advantage to any one playing against them who isn’t on their team. The influence of an admin, especially PR who everyone sees the most, is an unfair advantage already that can be used against anyone they choose.

besides, you dont think they can play on one device while playing on their admin account , on a lap top or PC? and abuse powers through that account, while playing on the other? get real. Ask around...,

people have been "warned" multiple times for no apparent reason while basing against an admins gang. people have been dragged away from flag while attacking an admins base. people have been told that will not have a chance at being a PR if they are apart of the other's person gang that is attacking. Dont believe me? ask Layerd.

Not all admins will exploit this kind of abuse, but clearly some will and are capable of doing it.

Karahaut · 02-01-2013

It depends on the context.

I don't see a problem with any Admin running a gang, so long as they do not participate in any gang activities with their admin account. That alone is very irresponsible, and in some ways, an abuse of power.

Though, in the end, no admin should be running a gang.

RedBoy786* · 02-01-2013

Ohhhhh I see where you are going with this now lol. You don't want Hearts to be able to own a gang do you lol...

K!LLA KEV · 02-01-2013

Posted by RedBoy786*

Ohhhhh I see where you are going with this now lol. You don't want Hearts to be able to own a gang do you lol...

I don’t think any admin should be allowed to own a gang. 2nd account or not. The people running & administrating the game, should do just that, run and administrate the game, or be a player and play the game. Not both. too much power that can be abused while owning a competitive gang as an admin. compare it any other game anywhere in the world, in video games or sports, that you would think its ok that the officals, referees, admins, umpires, whoever runs the game and has powers that others dont, can actively play against you.

like i said before, your very naive if you believe an admin wouldnt play and base on one device, and be using their admin account, on their pc or laptop (or even another idevice) to abuse powers at the same time. especially if they are running a competitive basing gang.

Johnaudi · 02-01-2013

Posted by K!LLA KEV

I don’t think any admin should be allowed to own a gang. 2nd account or not. The people running & administrating the game, should do just that, run and administrate the game, or be a player and play the game. Not both. too much power that can be abused while owning a competitive gang as an admin. compare it any other game anywhere in the world, in video games or sports, that you would think its ok that the officals, referees, admins, umpires, whoever runs the game and has powers that others dont, can actively play against you.

like i said before, your very naive if you believe an admin wouldnt play and base on one device, and be using their admin account, on their pc or laptop (or even another idevice) to abuse powers at the same time. especially if they are running a competitive basing gang.

That would not be fair.
P.S: No sir, you're not getting sK

ROCK* · 02-01-2013

LOL sorry Killa but you failed! John is right for one time in his life

wow it's hard to say reality

Lol and what you mean killa? U want sk? Or you want it to get disband? FAIL!

Talon · 02-01-2013

Staff are players too. Just saying. Why would staff be limited to the things they can do on a game that they help operate?

As long as there is no direct, absolute advantage over a player-run guild (there isn't), then staff-operated guilds gangs are fine.

K!LLA KEV · 02-01-2013

Posted by Johnaudi

That would not be fair.
P.S: No sir, you're not getting sK

lol if i wanted sK i wouldnt have given it back to hearts. but i should have disbanded it lol no, i dont want sk or want it disbanded, i didnt say anything at all about sk in this thread.

admins stick together, i understand that, especially ones who own gangs themselves.

Posted by ROCK*

LOL sorry Killa but you failed! John is right for one time in his life

wow it's hard to say reality

Lol and what you mean killa? U want sk? Or you want it to get disband? FAIL!

^ refer to the above. and you do bore me.

Posted by Talon

Staff are players too. Just saying. Why would staff be limited to the things they can do on a game that they help operate?

As long as there is no direct, absolute advantage over a player-run guild (there isn't), then staff-operated guilds gangs are fine.

BECAUSE THEY OPERATE THE GAME.

ONLY thing that would make it fair, would to not allow admin accounts to be on any gang tag ever, and that they cannot be on both accounts at same time. meaning if an admin is on one device's account(their non-admin account) basing, they CANNOT be logged into their admin account at the same time. it should be illegal, if its made illegal, then i would care less about them owning gangs.

Mystickk · 02-01-2013

As long as they're not using their admin powers to base I don't think it should be a problem (like staff boots, invincibiility, stuff like that). That's just my thought.

K!LLA KEV · 02-01-2013

Posted by Mystickk

As long as they're not using their admin powers to base I don't think it should be a problem (like staff boots, invincibiility, stuff like that). That's just my thought.

as long as they cant be logged into both accounts at same time. thats only way to make it fair. you shouldnt be allowed to be on admin account and be logged into another device basing at same time.

too much potential for abuse. ive seen it.

Poll Results: Should an Admin be allowed to own a gang?
59.52%	Yes.
40.48%	No.
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K!LLA KEV all killa no filla Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: t(^.^t) Posts: 1,111	Should an Admin be allowed to own a gang? I think this could be a good debate. Should an Admin be allowed to own and operate a gang, within the server they are administrating? plz explain why or why not. would like to hear everyone's opinons.

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Dope* Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 43	Why shouldn't they be allowed? its no harm for them to own a gang.

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Admiral Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,911	Of course, as long as they don't do it on their staff accounts then I don't see a problem with it.

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Niko sK Retired Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Miami Posts: 49	I think so yes there is really no problem with an admin owning a gang but in some cases no

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HomoPanda Everlasting love Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Vman's Bedroom Posts: 1,128	Lol at this....

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Karahaut Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 17	It depends on the context. I don't see a problem with any Admin running a gang, so long as they do not participate in any gang activities with their admin account. That alone is very irresponsible, and in some ways, an abuse of power. Though, in the end, no admin should be running a gang.

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RedBoy786* Resigned iEra PR Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 1,916	Ohhhhh I see where you are going with this now lol. You don't want Hearts to be able to own a gang do you lol...

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ROCK* Leveler Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Lebanon Posts: 71	LOL sorry Killa but you failed! John is right for one time in his life wow it's hard to say reality Lol and what you mean killa? U want sk? Or you want it to get disband? FAIL!

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Talon don't call it a comeback Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 8,268	Staff are players too. Just saying. Why would staff be limited to the things they can do on a game that they help operate? As long as there is no direct, absolute advantage over a player-run guild (there isn't), then staff-operated guilds gangs are fine.

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Mystickk Guest Posts: n/a	As long as they're not using their admin powers to base I don't think it should be a problem (like staff boots, invincibiility, stuff like that). That's just my thought.