Posted by PigParty

I think that Islam will reform to modernize itself and practice equality. It's just going to take time, just like it did and is still doing with Christianity.

I'm not trying to attack you or anything but I wanted to give you a different point of view to the islamophobia being rational idea. So Chicago has huge numbers of shootings and killings each day by predominantly Aftican Americans, but I don't think that justifies being afraid of all African Americans

African americans commit a large percent of crimes in america
This is why police officers are quick to shoot african americans because they assume that their life is in danger because of the high probability due to the cripling welfare system which causes many african americans in to grow up without a father which increases the likelyhood of them being involved in crime.

I'm not saying this thaught process is a good one,its terrible to assume these kinds of things because of someones beleifs nationality or race but this is all based off primal human instincts.
The right aproach would be an eventual reform and assimilation of these cultures so they won't commit these crimes.
Hating on white people is easier though so we won't be seeing any of these changes soon.  

I would take time to quote you, but I doubt anything said will get past that your ignorant skull, PigParty. However, I'll just finish with this, because you keep proving my point over and over again. A news aggregate can use an extremely accurate source; such as a government documentation of something. However, it is how they skew the details of those sources, twisting them to a point where they are so out of context, they are unrecognizable as facts anymore.  

Posted by PigParty

Yea, Christians were just racist in hugely mass numbers, KKK members that tortured black people, and abortion center bombers. The biggest reason Westerners have an issue with Sharia law is not because of what it practices but that they think Muslims want to impose Sharia law on Western countries. (Even though the video you showed mentioned numerous Muslim countries wanting Sharia law for themselves only.

Another article for ya then:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/qasim-...b_1068569.html

Having radical opinions is not terrorism. I know people that think others should be castrated if they're on welfare and have many children or continue having children. Hell, within the past election you see a lot of people agreeing with radical viewpoints.

Christianity was forced to evolve into modern times to account for equality (for the most part). The Catholic church banned divorced people, mothers who got abortions, they didn't (I think they do now?) allow women to be pastors, etc. The fact that the guy on the video says people who are sensitive about others mocking Muhammad are radicals and prone to terrorism essentially is hilarious. Equality is a major issue in Islamic nations, however Christianity has faced and to some degree still faces that same issue. That hardly makes them radical terrorists, though. Islam may be behind the times for what modern countries allow when it comes to equality and human rights, but don't even pretend that it's not the exact same thing Christianity has gone through.

I'm assuming you didn't actually read this article, in which case, your loss:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6995111.html

But it helps emphasize the point that the terrorists are just sick people who want an excuse to torture humanity. ISIS attacks Muslims too. Kind of seems hard to say all Muslims believe what ISIS believes when you see ISIS killing Muslims for not converting to their ways.



I think that Islam will reform to modernize itself and practice equality. It's just going to take time, just like it did and is still doing with Christianity.

I'm not trying to attack you or anything but I wanted to give you a different point of view to the islamophobia being rational idea. So Chicago has huge numbers of shootings and killings each day by predominantly Aftican Americans, but I don't think that justifies being afraid of all African Americans

It literally had 1400 years, what makes you think they suddenly will? Christianity has had a lot of reforms and different forms over the years where as Islam only had 2 major forms.

Islam is an ancient and violent ideology and it WILL NOT change.
Case in point:

 

Posted by Señor Albonio

Case in point:

Following your "logic", all I need to do is post one single YT video and I win a discussion?


Ok then,
case in point:

 

Posted by PumaD

Following your "logic", all I need to do is post one single YT video and I win a discussion?


Ok then,
case in point:

Well, there's a lot more than videos to it, goy.
But hey, don't cover up in Iraq as a woman and be punished by humiliation if you're lucky, stoned if you're not so lucky. And I get it, you probably haven't been to a truly Islamic country yourself.

All this "Islam is peace" is what we call propaganda. Quran 5:32 gets quoted all the time on Facebook, however if you look just 1 verse, just 1 ahead it goes from "killing 1 of us is like killing all of us" to "lmao you dont like our religion? I'll cap yo ass."

Don't act meshuggah, don't fall for it.  

Posted by iMac

I would take time to quote you, but I doubt anything said will get past that your ignorant skull, PigParty. However, I'll just finish with this, because you keep proving my point over and over again. A news aggregate can use an extremely accurate source; such as a government documentation of something. However, it is how they skew the details of those sources, twisting them to a point where they are so out of context, they are unrecognizable as facts anymore.

-10 points for errors

Yea, except I said that the article actually links you to the government documents so you can see them for yourself. Funny that you keep thinking you're right about something completely irrelevant to this whole thread and you couldn't control your ignorant self from derailing a content-based discussion into a discussion that you literally made up to make you look educated on a graalians forums.

Posted by Señor Albonio

Well, there's a lot more than videos to it, goy.
But hey, don't cover up in Iraq as a woman and be punished by humiliation if you're lucky, stoned if you're not so lucky. And I get it, you probably haven't been to a truly Islamic country yourself.

All this "Islam is peace" is what we call propaganda. Quran 5:32 gets quoted all the time on Facebook, however if you look just 1 verse, just 1 ahead it goes from "killing 1 of us is like killing all of us" to "lmao you dont like our religion? I'll cap yo ass."

Don't act meshuggah, don't fall for it.

I'm just curious, what makes the "Islam is peace" propaganda? I know a fair amount of Muslims that are the nicest people you'd ever meet. You're painting Islam as a broad brush with the negative side, but there's many millions of Muslims that are peaceful individuals. If "Islam is peace" is propaganda, then isn't the fear-mongering that is seen a lot nowadays also propaganda?

Many Islamic countries definitely don't have equality, but there's many subtle and not-so subtle hints that things are on the path to changing in their culture. Inequality is hardly violence, though.  

Taking qoutes 1:1 is always wrong, especially if those are hundred of years old. Furthermore, may tell me ten countries which practises Sharia law 1-to-1 aswell? I doubt - I believe there's only one or two countries who do that.