changes to weapons - 6

DraGun · 08-07-2015

A gun costing 2000 gralats should not be doing 12 dmg with a high ass clip and fairly medium reload and RoF. That's just outrageous. What's next? a gun costing 10000 gralats doing insta kill? No way. Zone and iZone itself are two totally different game in terms of aspects and balancing system. A lot of people wants iZone to somewhat mimic the original PC Zone. Yes, some stuff I do agree we should follow with, but a lot are a big no. iZone needs to be it's own game as much originality as it can. You shouldn't want to rely on an old game that nobody ever hardly play to base your new game off of. With the current mechanics iZone will never what you claim it should be. Large battlefield and high damage weapons. iZone doesn't even have enough players for that kind of PvP activities yet and even if it does there needs to be some aspects put into close quarter combat situations. You can't just rely around the whole idea of big battlfield, high damage weapon. That's just terribly balanced. There's different approaches you can take towards the game to make it balance without turning it to a complete pile of trash. The guns were somewhat balanced with a few being "broken" that needed a few tweaks here and there. On side note, I don't know what you did with the Photon Canon but that gun is complete trash. Shooting 1 bullet every 5 seconds, not sure what the dmg on it is but I am guessing it must be 50! Moral of the story, don't take one stance on a situation, get some input and feedback, create some new ideas and keep your head open minded.

PigParty · 08-07-2015

I want iZone pk to be fast-paced, but that doesn't mean killing people should be fast. That's the advantage over Era, is 1. No freeze, and 2. 360 shooting. I want bullets flying everywhere, dodging, running, a very fast-paced atmosphere where you're always on the move, but that doesn't mean guns should do 2x damage they do now and be able to kill someone in 4 shots for the weakest gun. I want the guns so that everyone picks a different favorite gun. My favorite gun at Conquest was the chaingun, and I can tell ya it was hard as hell to kill me. I used that recoil like a boss, I didn't get a ton of PKs, but my gun was meant to spam bullets at people, causing them to dodge me and to run into my other allies' bullets, resulting in more dmg. I remember in Conquest seeing everyone using a diff gun, some used rippers (usually the newbies, just cause it was an easy gun, but it wasnt op at the time), and some used green rifle (another fav of mine), hell, some used love rifle, heartbreaker, blue xmas rifle, rudolph rifle, egg launcher, etc etc... But the last time I truly pked/based in Conquest (a while ago) the guns were messed up and mostly everyone used rippers then. Rippers are an easy gun, therefore it shouldn't be really even close to the best, even though it costs a lot, the cost is because it's so easy to use. Anyways, + rep Dragun.

Cookie Xanadu · 08-07-2015

With 100 hp, balancing would be so much better. Rippers could hit 20, appirces hit 9 but fire 4 bullets, etc.

PigParty · 08-07-2015

Posted by Cookie Xanadu

With 100 hp, balancing would be so much better. Rippers could hit 20, appirces hit 9 but fire 4 bullets, etc.

With 50 hp, balancing would be the exact same

. Rippers could hit 10, appirces hit 4.5 but fire 4 bullets, etc.

Cookie Xanadu · 08-07-2015

Posted by PigParty

With 50 hp, balancing would be the exact same

. Rippers could hit 10, appirces hit 4.5 but fire 4 bullets, etc.

With 100 it looks much cleaner and offers more choices for ranges.

Ghettoicedtea · 08-07-2015

Posted by DraGun

A gun costing 2000 gralats should not be doing 12 dmg with a high ass clip and fairly medium reload and RoF. That's just outrageous. What's next? a gun costing 10000 gralats doing insta kill? No way. Zone and iZone itself are two totally different game in terms of aspects and balancing system. A lot of people wants iZone to somewhat mimic the original PC Zone. Yes, some stuff I do agree we should follow with, but a lot are a big no. iZone needs to be it's own game as much originality as it can. You shouldn't want to rely on an old game that nobody ever hardly play to base your new game off of. With the current mechanics iZone will never what you claim it should be. Large battlefield and high damage weapons. iZone doesn't even have enough players for that kind of PvP activities yet and even if it does there needs to be some aspects put into close quarter combat situations. You can't just rely around the whole idea of big battlfield, high damage weapon. That's just terribly balanced. There's different approaches you can take towards the game to make it balance without turning it to a complete pile of trash. The guns were somewhat balanced with a few being "broken" that needed a few tweaks here and there. On side note, I don't know what you did with the Photon Canon but that gun is complete trash. Shooting 1 bullet every 5 seconds, not sure what the dmg on it is but I am guessing it must be 50! Moral of the story, don't take one stance on a situation, get some input and feedback, create some new ideas and keep your head open minded.

u fokn wot m8 this is called testing and allowing as many people as possible to get in on it for like 3 days. Not permanent changes.

Posted by PigParty

With 50 hp, balancing would be the exact same

. Rippers could hit 10, appirces hit 4.5 but fire 4 bullets, etc.

omfg, why are you even defending 50HP? its horrible to balance with, the only possible way to allow guns to have diversity with 50hp is through higher damage models. with 100 HP though we can leave the game pretty much the same and have diverse niche weapons.

PigParty · 08-07-2015

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

u fokn wot m8 this is called testing and allowing as many people as possible to get in on it for like 3 days. Not permanent changes.

omfg, why are you even defending 50HP? its horrible to balance with, the only possible way to allow guns to have diversity with 50hp is through higher damage models. with 100 HP though we can leave the game pretty much the same and have diverse niche weapons.

It's literally the same, just double numbers.

Cookie Xanadu · 08-07-2015

Posted by PigParty

It's literally the same, just double numbers.

It allows for cleaner looking numbers and no need to mess with ugly decimals

fsh · 08-08-2015

tl;dr with all this shit

Cookie Xanadu · 08-09-2015

Posted by fsh

tl;dr with all this shit

Ghetto and I want POWBANGBOOM POWER

Dragun wants pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew WEAK

That's the gist of it

PigParty · 08-09-2015

Posted by Cookie Xanadu

Ghetto and I want POWBANGBOOM POWER

Dragun wants pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew WEAK

That's the gist of it

pew is better than bang.

Ghettoicedtea · 08-10-2015

Posted by PigParty

pew is better than bang.

Pewpewpew is gay. Its boring af and makes the meta dull in our case.

PigParty · 08-11-2015

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Pewpewpew is gay. Its boring af and makes the meta dull in our case.

pewpewpew is fun & the best.

Tashkin · 08-11-2015

We are going to be changing classes and adding some new ones. The HP will vary from class to class.

kenthefruit · 08-11-2015

Posted by Cookie Xanadu

Ghetto and I want POWBANGBOOM POWER

Dragun wants pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew WEAK

That's the gist of it

its no fun to fight when you die in 3 shots

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DraGun Graal Citizen Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: California Posts: 381	A gun costing 2000 gralats should not be doing 12 dmg with a high ass clip and fairly medium reload and RoF. That's just outrageous. What's next? a gun costing 10000 gralats doing insta kill? No way. Zone and iZone itself are two totally different game in terms of aspects and balancing system. A lot of people wants iZone to somewhat mimic the original PC Zone. Yes, some stuff I do agree we should follow with, but a lot are a big no. iZone needs to be it's own game as much originality as it can. You shouldn't want to rely on an old game that nobody ever hardly play to base your new game off of. With the current mechanics iZone will never what you claim it should be. Large battlefield and high damage weapons. iZone doesn't even have enough players for that kind of PvP activities yet and even if it does there needs to be some aspects put into close quarter combat situations. You can't just rely around the whole idea of big battlfield, high damage weapon. That's just terribly balanced. There's different approaches you can take towards the game to make it balance without turning it to a complete pile of trash. The guns were somewhat balanced with a few being "broken" that needed a few tweaks here and there. On side note, I don't know what you did with the Photon Canon but that gun is complete trash. Shooting 1 bullet every 5 seconds, not sure what the dmg on it is but I am guessing it must be 50! Moral of the story, don't take one stance on a situation, get some input and feedback, create some new ideas and keep your head open minded.

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PigParty PigParty🐷 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: PigPen Posts: 2,913	I want iZone pk to be fast-paced, but that doesn't mean killing people should be fast. That's the advantage over Era, is 1. No freeze, and 2. 360 shooting. I want bullets flying everywhere, dodging, running, a very fast-paced atmosphere where you're always on the move, but that doesn't mean guns should do 2x damage they do now and be able to kill someone in 4 shots for the weakest gun. I want the guns so that everyone picks a different favorite gun. My favorite gun at Conquest was the chaingun, and I can tell ya it was hard as hell to kill me. I used that recoil like a boss, I didn't get a ton of PKs, but my gun was meant to spam bullets at people, causing them to dodge me and to run into my other allies' bullets, resulting in more dmg. I remember in Conquest seeing everyone using a diff gun, some used rippers (usually the newbies, just cause it was an easy gun, but it wasnt op at the time), and some used green rifle (another fav of mine), hell, some used love rifle, heartbreaker, blue xmas rifle, rudolph rifle, egg launcher, etc etc... But the last time I truly pked/based in Conquest (a while ago) the guns were messed up and mostly everyone used rippers then. Rippers are an easy gun, therefore it shouldn't be really even close to the best, even though it costs a lot, the cost is because it's so easy to use. Anyways, + rep Dragun.

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Cookie Xanadu Uguu~ Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Canada, NS Posts: 1,046	With 100 hp, balancing would be so much better. Rippers could hit 20, appirces hit 9 but fire 4 bullets, etc.

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fsh floating on Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: GraalOnline Zone Posts: 3,422	tl;dr with all this shit

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Tashkin The Tashkin Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 740	We are going to be changing classes and adding some new ones. The HP will vary from class to class.