Posted by Sardon

@Mrsimons

you wouldn't need to carry a firearm if everyone else wasn't carrying a firearm
I could go literally anywhere in my city,the only dangers here are usualy from drunks stabbing folks to death or hells angels gang but nobody ever feels unsafe walking around downtown.

*makes law so nobody can carry firearms*

*criminals (who obviously listen to laws) are the ones who people need protection from in the form of firearms*

*criminals ignore new law and the rest of the people have nothing to do about it*

Nice plan  

Posted by Sardon

@Mrsimons

you wouldn't need to carry a firearm if everyone else wasn't carrying a firearm
I could go literally anywhere in my city,the only dangers here are usualy from drunks stabbing folks to death or hells angels gang but nobody ever feels unsafe walking around downtown.

Inferring you absolutely need a firearm to commit a crime.  

This is what is going to happen when everyone can carry weapons.....

http://andreaaguilar-calderon.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Palestina-Israel.jpg (Unsupported image host)

Definitely, this is not the solution, Fulgore.  

Carring guns will cause people to die and make Jews cry while being recorded???

OH THE HUMANITY.

Lol Paddie, Google Images is your best friend.  

Posted by Fulgore

*makes law so nobody can carry firearms*

*criminals (who obviously listen to laws) are the ones who people need protection from in the form of firearms*

*criminals ignore new law and the rest of the people have nothing to do about it*

Nice plan

The chances of being assaulted at all are small in my country, even smaller if it has to include a firearm.
So unless you are involving yourself into criminal stuff you really don't need a gun ever  

Posted by Eugeen

The chances of being assaulted at all are small in my country, even smaller if it has to include a firearm.
So unless you are involving yourself into criminal stuff you really don't need a gun ever

But with that being said, crooks don't need a gun to commit a crime. So how exactly are you supposed to defend yourself? Is everyone supposed to learn jujitsu or something?

Now don't get me wrong I'm all for gun control but the solution isn't getting rid of all guns, its regulating them.

Trust me, if the government just confiscated all firearms we'd have an even bigger issue on our hands. We need to start cracking down on sale of illegal firearms, illegal possession of firearms, and thorough background checks for people who wish to purchase legal firearms.  

Posted by 5hift

But with that being said, crooks don't need a gun to commit a crime. So how exactly are you supposed to defend yourself? Is everyone supposed to learn jujitsu or something?

Now don't get me wrong I'm all for gun control but the solution isn't getting rid of all guns, its regulating them.

Trust me, if the government just confiscated all firearms we'd have an even bigger issue on our hands. We need to start cracking down on sale of illegal firearms, illegal possession of firearms, and thorough background checks for people who wish to purchase legal firearms.

I'm fine with all of that, which is the usual for those on the "pro-gun" side. All the people in other countries using themselves as an example is practically a moot point because those countries aren't the same as the US. There are too many firearms in circulation already to just ban guns, and suggesting such only proves that you put so little thought into the topic you shouldn't bother discussing it.  

If you head on over to the southside of Chicago (good luck out there...) you'll find that most of the crimes committed with firearms are either not owned by the perp or are completely illegal. That's why even after all these gun control laws things are still just as ****ed up down there.  

Obviously the government should confiscated all firearms. Why does the criminals have guns?  

I literally just said criminals can illegally acquire guns did you not read anything we said?

Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the entire country yet the city is a complete mess.

And because illegal guns are actually easier to get than legal guns, its no wonder why Chicago has one of the largest crime rates of any American city.

You know there's something ****ed up about your gun laws when its easier to get an illegal gun than it is to get a legal gun.  

Posted by Paddie

This is what is going to happen when everyone can carry weapons.....

http://andreaaguilar-calderon.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Palestina-Israel.jpg (Unsupported image host)

Definitely, this is not the solution, Fulgore.

And communist Russia is what you get when you confiscate all guns.

Now that we're done talking out of our asses...

The idea of removing all guns in the U.S. is naive, unconstitutional, and unrealistic. To people who compare gun crimes from the U.S. to that of Australia or England, please realize that you're comparing apples to oranges. Islands vs. the U.S. are very different things. In Texas everyone has a gun, and nobody does **** because they know everyone has a ****ing gun. Chicago's problem, though, are gangs & drugs, rather than guns. NYC restricts guns a lot and has much much better gun crime rates  

Posted by 5hift

I literally just said criminals can illegally acquire guns did you not read anything we said?

Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the entire country yet the city is a complete mess.

And because illegal guns are actually easier to get than legal guns, its no wonder why Chicago has one of the largest crime rates of any American city.

You know there's something ****ed up about your gun laws when its easier to get an illegal gun than it is to get a legal gun.

They should restrict or prohibit the sale of weapons. First of all, we have to look at respect for all human life. Not everyone acts in the same way. If in a country never has happened a massacre, that doesn't mean it can happen. People today are not tolerant.

No, I don't read many comments on forums since I saw someone asking if the drug use is a current problem...  

Posted by PigParty

The idea of removing all guns in the U.S. is naive, unconstitutional, and unrealistic. To people who compare gun crimes from the U.S. to that of Australia or England, please realize that you're comparing apples to oranges. Islands vs. the U.S. are very different things. In Texas everyone has a gun, and nobody does **** because they know everyone has a ****ing gun. Chicago's problem, though, are gangs & drugs, rather than guns. NYC restricts guns a lot and has much much better gun crime rates

Nah dude guns are a pretty big goddamn problem in Chicago.

https://www.atf.gov/docs/163564-ilat...15pdf/download

Like I keep saying, its the illegal gun trade that helps fuels the homicide rates in this city. Gun shops have been regulated to high heaven while hundreds of unregistered weapons flood the streets from states all around, mainly Indiana.

Posted by Paddie

They should restrict or prohibit the sale of weapons.

Yeah I'm done trying to converse with the 12 year old.  

Posted by Fulgore

*makes law so nobody can carry firearms*

*criminals (who obviously listen to laws) are the ones who people need protection from in the form of firearms*

*criminals ignore new law and the rest of the people have nothing to do about it*

Nice plan

Obviously the government would increase security measures to ensure that illegal firearms do not enter the country.

If a criminal has a gun owning one yourself won't help because its probably too late for you anyway,comply with their wishes.

The amount of firearms in circulation will decrease as they are confiscated and the prices for them will go up due to limited stock therefore preventing most criminals from obtaining them.

Crimes still happen without firearms however running away from someone wielding a knife is much easier than with a criminal with a firearm.Law enforcement also has a higher chance of not being killed as they will have access to firearms.  

Posted by Sardon

Obviously the government would increase security measures to ensure that illegal firearms do not enter the country.

If a criminal has a gun owning one yourself won't help because its probably too late for you anyway,comply with their wishes.

The amount of firearms in circulation will decrease as they are confiscated and the prices for them will go up due to limited stock therefore preventing most criminals from obtaining them.

Crimes still happen without firearms however running away from someone wielding a knife is much easier than with a criminal with a firearm.Law enforcement also has a higher chance of not being killed as they will have access to firearms.

Almost none of what you just said even argues in favor of confiscating guns. The problem isn't arms entering the country, the arms are already here.

*government confiscates guns*

*criminals hide guns*

*regular citizens obey the law*

*same problem as before*