Re-using items = The End of Graal?

Silly Frog · 10-12-2014

So as most other games out there (PL,DL,SL) that began re-using items when I played them, I saw a large amount of steady players that would play because they had some sense of satisfaction knowing that they started playing when an item was given only once (like Era's VIP items proclaimed) begin to leave or play less than usual.

I started seeing those long time players that actually spent $$$ in-game start losing trust for the game and starting logging in only once in a while since some no longer enjoyed the game.

That being said, I know Era has re-used some items previously, like back in Easter 2013 from 2012 and so on. But does this mean that it's just going to be the norm now? When we can't find someone who can use Paint to create a new item we just reuse another? -_-
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If you can bring back things, then #BringBackOurDrops #TakeAwayTables
Only new players agree that tables are good, no one actually sees how it's made graal worse. Now I know I'm a scammer and till this day I still scam on the tables (18-30 scams a day). But that's not my point.

My point is, back when Graal had drops;

Positives

1.) Players had to earn the trust of other players to get an item.
2.) Gangs held trust to their names for hosting middle men trades
3.) Scammers could run free and enjoy the hell out of the game
4.) "Players" (not "Unknown" like you've labeled the new players nowadays) actually got to learn how to gain someone's trust or find out who's really their friends or not.

But now...
Negatives
1.) No one trust each other, only doing a favor (selling an item cheap) earns you a friend.
2.) Houses are irrelevant (no need decorating if no one is coming)
3.) Same goes for gang houses
4.) A noob can go buy 99999 shovels with their moms credit card -> Sell the shovels for shells -> buy a rare item
5.) Obama
6.) Game has now turned into whoever can buy the most is the best
7.) Everyone is at start standing there instead of actually enjoying the game
8.) Etc...

Now if you could make it so if someone ACTUALLY wanted to trade something worthwhile would have to pay like 50k to a booth or something, THAT would make sense. Not this bs that's ruining the game.

/Endrant

Cookie Xanadu · 10-12-2014

Games do it all the time bruh. Mabi is a big example of this. Just recently, flame wings sold for around 20-30mil but now they're only 5-10mil due to a ****tonne being released through a new gacha (and it exclaiming the people that got it so they couldn't hide it). It happens and deal with it.

As for everything else; Era was pretty bad a little while after the start. This is why PC will always outshine the money-grabbing iOS version

Silly Frog · 10-12-2014

Posted by Cookie Xanadu

Games do it all the time bruh. Mabi is a big example of this. Just recently, flame wings sold for around 20-30mil but now they're only 5-10mil due to a ****tonne being released through a new gacha (and it exclaiming the people that got it so they couldn't hide it). It happens and deal with it.

As for everything else; Era was pretty bad a little while after the start. This is why PC will always outshine the money-grabbing iOS version

True, lol I tried playing Mabi for a while but couldn't catch on. Though I loved the start song/ (Tir Chonaill) song. Just listening to it right now brings back so many memories of trolling on Mabi too.

But yea yesterday I actually paid for a gameloft game (Mc5) for the first time! I always just download it elsewhere but this time I thought they deserved it...ended up not working for my Note 3 since it kept disconnecting from the server. Seems most devs don't care about their players on mobile and focus on the $$$. A high end device like the Note 3 doesn't even get tested whilst they test every iOS garbage out there.

Good thing Google lets you get a refund in like 2 hours. Wish they could do the same for Graal, get all the $$$ I've spent here seeing that we're headed downhill.

Summertime Love · 10-12-2014

If you can bring back things, then #BringBackOurDrops #TakeAwayTables
Only new players agree that tables are good, no one actually sees how it's made graal worse. Now I know I'm a scammer and till this day I still scam on the tables (18-30 scams a day). But that's not my point.

optimuswhat · 10-12-2014

I liked the dropping feature.
It gave new users a chance to get items they will probably never get.

I got my first rare (a Maraca) when two guys were drop trading in a isolated building. I felt pretty happy!

Silly Frog · 10-12-2014

Posted by optimuswhat

I liked the dropping feature.
It gave new users a chance to get items they will probably never get.

Ah, add that to the list. lol and I was the dumbarse that would troll and drop it at start for them to try and get it, then pick it up. Failing over 20 times since they would get smart and kill me before I could pickup.

But nowdays they have to fake being someone's friend to get something decent.

TWIZ · 10-12-2014

I'm referring back to when dropping items was a thing, but when we could drop, it was convenient to know that I was free to drop whatever I wanted whenever I wanted. It felt more like a business rather than a bunch of rats scavenging the trade market. I could make large deals and make a lot of moola off of it, but now after I quit and came back a year or so later, I was introduced to the tables. They completely suck for many reasons, most of which are stated above. Scamming happens with or without trading, and is just as easy with tables.

Silly Frog · 10-13-2014

Posted by TWIZ

I'm referring back to when dropping items was a thing, but when we could drop, it was convenient to know that I was free to drop whatever I wanted whenever I wanted. It felt more like a business rather than a bunch of rats scavenging the trade market. I could make large deals and make a lot of moola off of it, but now after I quit and came back a year or so later, I was introduced to the tables. They completely suck for many reasons, most of which are stated above. Scamming happens with or without trading, and is just as easy with tables.

Exactly...damn bro you deserve an EC for that statement.
ANYWAYS, lol someone just told me some girl recorded me back in 2013 failing at the tables. lol enjoy

Starts at: 2:45

Vivid · 10-13-2014

lol this is about broom isn't it. I just read the title lmao.
Btw I'm pretty sure the old broom was like a skateboard while the current one is the same speed.

Cookie Xanadu · 10-13-2014

Posted by Silly Frog

Exactly...damn bro you deserve an EC for that statement.
ANYWAYS, lol someone just told me some girl recorded me back in 2013 failing at the tables. lol enjoy

Starts at: 2:45

That swap is pretty noticeable...

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Silly Frog Trade Tables= Bad (lol) Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Connecticut Posts: 119	Re-using items = The End of Graal? So as most other games out there (PL,DL,SL) that began re-using items when I played them, I saw a large amount of steady players that would play because they had some sense of satisfaction knowing that they started playing when an item was given only once (like Era's VIP items proclaimed) begin to leave or play less than usual. I started seeing those long time players that actually spent $$$ in-game start losing trust for the game and starting logging in only once in a while since some no longer enjoyed the game. That being said, I know Era has re-used some items previously, like back in Easter 2013 from 2012 and so on. But does this mean that it's just going to be the norm now? When we can't find someone who can use Paint to create a new item we just reuse another? -_- __________________________________________________ _____________ If you can bring back things, then #BringBackOurDrops #TakeAwayTables Only new players agree that tables are good, no one actually sees how it's made graal worse. Now I know I'm a scammer and till this day I still scam on the tables (18-30 scams a day). But that's not my point. My point is, back when Graal had drops; Positives 1.) Players had to earn the trust of other players to get an item. 2.) Gangs held trust to their names for hosting middle men trades 3.) Scammers could run free and enjoy the hell out of the game 4.) "Players" (not "Unknown" like you've labeled the new players nowadays) actually got to learn how to gain someone's trust or find out who's really their friends or not. But now... Negatives 1.) No one trust each other, only doing a favor (selling an item cheap) earns you a friend. 2.) Houses are irrelevant (no need decorating if no one is coming) 3.) Same goes for gang houses 4.) A noob can go buy 99999 shovels with their moms credit card -> Sell the shovels for shells -> buy a rare item 5.) Obama 6.) Game has now turned into whoever can buy the most is the best 7.) Everyone is at start standing there instead of actually enjoying the game 8.) Etc... Now if you could make it so if someone ACTUALLY wanted to trade something worthwhile would have to pay like 50k to a booth or something, THAT would make sense. Not this bs that's ruining the game. /Endrant

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Cookie Xanadu Uguu~ Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Canada, NS Posts: 1,046	Games do it all the time bruh. Mabi is a big example of this. Just recently, flame wings sold for around 20-30mil but now they're only 5-10mil due to a ****tonne being released through a new gacha (and it exclaiming the people that got it so they couldn't hide it). It happens and deal with it. As for everything else; Era was pretty bad a little while after the start. This is why PC will always outshine the money-grabbing iOS version

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Summertime Love Conversational Lush Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Home Posts: 136	If you can bring back things, then #BringBackOurDrops #TakeAwayTables Only new players agree that tables are good, no one actually sees how it's made graal worse. Now I know I'm a scammer and till this day I still scam on the tables (18-30 scams a day). But that's not my point.

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optimuswhat Speed Demon Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,288	I liked the dropping feature. It gave new users a chance to get items they will probably never get. I got my first rare (a Maraca) when two guys were drop trading in a isolated building. I felt pretty happy! Last edited by optimuswhat; 10-12-2014 at 06:30 PM.

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TWIZ Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: fighting alt-right Posts: 2,570	I'm referring back to when dropping items was a thing, but when we could drop, it was convenient to know that I was free to drop whatever I wanted whenever I wanted. It felt more like a business rather than a bunch of rats scavenging the trade market. I could make large deals and make a lot of moola off of it, but now after I quit and came back a year or so later, I was introduced to the tables. They completely suck for many reasons, most of which are stated above. Scamming happens with or without trading, and is just as easy with tables.

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Vivid Hey Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: FL, USA Posts: 1,547	lol this is about broom isn't it. I just read the title lmao. Btw I'm pretty sure the old broom was like a skateboard while the current one is the same speed.