Tash your statement is invalid. People always team up like on me. Everytime i see teamers i dont really care. I just easily kill them up or when I been killed. I never pout or complain to staff because there is no RULE ever posted. Post anything you want abput rule since day 1 but there isn't really there. Im not even aware in teaming because I can just ez them x.x as for PurpleMoon she is complaining bcause she is just a nub who cant accept losing. I accept losing in Spar, bomb spar or even sd. So your statem2nt is just so invalid  

If the rules are not really clear and simply left up to discretion (I.e. if you think its bad dont do it,) this will always be the result.

Do the simple thing, quit arguing with them, and have you or someone on your team design a clear set of rules and post them somewhere publicly available (preferrably accessible from in game.

If so many people are willing to come forth and say they never knew about it, then obviously something is wrong, and taking the defense here isn't going to improve their experience.

They want clearly defined rules -- this is not an unreasonable request.  

Again, when I was staff (Jan-June), this was no rule. And I don't think I was that inactive pr dumb to not notice it. However, I don't know why you have to be personal and offending now.  

Posted by GOAT

I never said he was

Posted by GOAT

The fact that tash closed the other thread with the excuse of people raging and not getting their facts straight made it seem like he was hiding something.

Posted by GOAT

Most players here are saying that they didnt know it was a rule. The way i see it is players should be able to use any strategy to win as long as its not assisted by some cheat engine/hack. If staff dont like the strategy they can figure out a way to prevent it from happening. Classic had alot of problems with peoples strategies in towers and rufus realized it was easier to find a solution than warn players, some examples, horses in towers got removed, door blockers got hit with the push down doors and arrow spammers lost that privilege.

You are allowed to have an opinion on how you think the server should be run. e.g. as long as people don't cheat it should be allowed. Unfortunately it's not up to you or any other player. It's up to management. Even if most players don't know about the rule, it's still a rule regardless. Also, whats your advice about coding something to stop teaming without totally making spars annoying? It's not as simple as banning horses for a tower. The only real option is to making sparring 1v1 and that would ruin the challenge of freeforall. You can script things to prevent in game glitches, but it's very difficult to script things that try and change peoples behaviors such as teaming.

Posted by GOAT

The abuse part can be seen in 3 parts. (This is where people make up their own opinion about the situation)
1. Tash broadcasts a msg to get people into the bomb spar area (according to the witnesses it was so purple moon could eat up some nubs)
2. Purple moon is the Kevin91 of iZone so 2 lesser skilled players decide to team up to beat her. When tash sees this he sticks them and warns them about being banned
3. Tash is acting as purple moons personal spar moderator.

1. I haven't seen the image of the PM, but I am assuming he didn't mention her anywhere in it so for all we know he just wanted to generate some action because it was stagnate.

2. I don't know who kevin91 is. Anyway as Rotaruc decribed the two players weren't actually beating her so purplemoon didn't need any help. But when you have two players team you it is very annoying, so I would assume if Tashkin saw this with anyone players he would have done the same thing.

3. Managers are allowed to have friends. So if he is hanging out with a friend and he sees someone break his server rules against his friend or against someone else he is going to do something about it. The only difference is the chances are higher that he helps her out because he is around her more, which isn't staff abuse.

Posted by GOAT

The question is would he do that for me, you, or anyone else that is not his friend?

I bet he would if he was around you when it happened.

Posted by GOAT

Then if this purple moon girl is his graal gf it makes the whole incident suspicious.

If there is nothing confirming this then it shouldn't even be brought up, otherwise it's just spreading rumors. If no one knows for sure it shouldn't be included.  

Posted by Tashkin

You were warned or whoever you posted for was... you even showed everyone the pm of you being warned. You were given a verbal warning. So yes... you were warned.

Now you are rambling on about a bunch of different not even related to your arguement. You statements are all over the place. You can be mad all you want because of being told not to do something. Simply shows how childish you are and how much you think you can get away with anything you please.




Or like usually just didn't pay attention. The rule has been there since before I started. I never added it. As stated in my previous post teaming is basically boosting so only him and his friend would win. Which is why teaming has never been allowed in those two places. Which is why we patrol those areas. Common sense and actually doing your job and you would know that.

First part of message response: LOL Such bullsht. You have no evidence of this and I have 2 abused graalians against your word. Which atm is worth *** right now because of all the lies that keep coming out of you. I was in no way at all invloved with the teaming. I was not verbally warned or warned. I was not sticked or messaged. That message is from hanson and he gave it to me on kik so i could expose you to everyone.

Second part of message: Ohhh so now its "been there since before i started" Lmfao yeah ok. And they were teaming on purplemoon not boosting. WHO TF BOOSTS BOMB SPARS? NEVER in the history or zone have i heard of bomb spar boosters. You dont even get any prizes or gralats for bomb sparring. why would anyone boost? Like wtf tashkin cmon after my last post you'd think that the lies would stop.


Heres my proof that i was not warned and it was hanson & titan that were teaming. and that tashkin is lying. If this isnt enough then think about it? he says both of you will be banned. Why would i need the message sent to me if i was one of the teamers? Because I WASNT.  

Every staff member you would ask until this incident claimed teaming was legal. Tashkin's pixelated 36 year old girlfriend gets teamed, and it magically changes. Mhm, seems l3g1t.  

Posted by GOAT

I never said he was

Posted by GOAT

The fact that tash closed the other thread with the excuse of people raging and not getting their facts straight made it seem like he was hiding something.

Im not here to attack tash or prove that his actions were corrupted. My issue with the whole situation is the way it was handled here in the forums. Graalians is the only place where players are free to praise, rant, vent frustrations about things that happen in-game without being punished for it (As long as it doesnt cross the lines) so when a legit thread is deleted do to conflict of interest its when it starts heading the wrong way. Those actions might be the norm in the official forums but it shouldnt take place here.

Posted by Unknown

You are allowed to have an opinion on how you think the server should be run. e.g. as long as people don't cheat it should be allowed. Unfortunately it's not up to you or any other player. It's up to management. Even if most players don't know about the rule, it's still a rule regardless. Also, whats your advice about coding something to stop teaming without totally making spars annoying? It's not as simple as banning horses for a tower. The only real option is to making sparring 1v1 and that would ruin the challenge of freeforall. You can script things to prevent in game glitches, but it's very difficult to script things that try and change peoples behaviors such as teaming.

Im not saying how the server should be run Im only stating my opinion in one small aspect of the game. For the coding part, Im not a coder so i have no idea. If you actually want to know the answer to that you might want to ask someone like fowlplay.

Posted by Unknown

1. I haven't seen the image of the PM, but I am assuming he didn't mention her anywhere in it so for all we know he just wanted to generate some action because it was stagnate.

2. I don't know who kevin91 is. Anyway as Rotaruc decribed the two players weren't actually beating her so purplemoon didn't need any help. But when you have two players team you it is very annoying, so I would assume if Tashkin saw this with anyone players he would have done the same thing.

3. Managers are allowed to have friends. So if he is hanging out with a friend and he sees someone break his server rules against his friend or against someone else he is going to do something about it. The only difference is the chances are higher that he helps her out because he is around her more, which isn't staff abuse.



I bet he would if he was around you when it happened.



If there is nothing confirming this then it shouldn't even be brought up, otherwise it's just spreading rumors. If no one knows for sure it shouldn't be included.

Posted by GOAT

The abuse part can be seen in 3 parts. (This is where people make up their own opinion about the situation)


Personally i think this is just personal issues between tash and rota and each side saw things their way.

 

Posted by Tashkin

There aren't rules posted on any server. Doesn't players get to do whatever they please. It mostly common sense... if it's probably something you shouldn't do then don't do it plain and simple.

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that's where you are wrong
http://era-go.com/forum/showthread.p...-Jailing-Rules

just can you please stop being a asshole and admit what you did was wrong and we can move on? Because clearly, you have 0 supporters and your defense statements are really bad and invalid. You can't win this fight.
just please, post an apology post and close down the thread NOT DELETE IT that way we can all move on from this bull****.  

oh this is good :popcorn:  

Posted by Crono

oh this is good :popcorn:

Anything that keeps the hatemongering out of delteria bugs threads.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Western-pack-butter.jpg/1280px-Western-pack-butter.jpg (Unsupported image host)  

Posted by Crono

oh this is good :popcorn:

get milkduds too. Milkduds + popcorn = win

Posted by Torankusu

Anything that keeps the hatemongering out of delteria bugs threads.

delteria is the BF4 of graal. Everyone was super pumped up about it and when it was released, it was almost unplayable thanks to bugs.  

Let's see... I could attempt to break up this pointless fight or go watch anime... Cya guys in a few hours.  

Not posting rules is like making a law and no one even knowing about it. That's why smart people actually wrote them down.  

http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...Teaming&page=2

Teaming has been legal since day 1, even James did it with Marble, and people did it against james in showdown. Domination teamed james, he didn't ban them, he didn't cry, he didn't do it because his useless server hopping gf was mad. it has been legal since day 1  

Just apologize and get over it x.x