New guild and tower system - 2

Skyzer · 06-13-2012

You kids need to stop ****ing bitching.

twilit · 06-13-2012

Posted by Joseph

It's "worked fine" if you're into mindless repetition and unfairness.

Hey idiot, why don't you try explaining why they're "******ed" instead of just saying "oh hurr u so tarded man wtf". You aren't contributing anything productive to this thread with your asinine comments. And stop complaining about people who are trying come up with ideas to improve the game. I get the whole concept of "don't fix what isn't broken", but the tower-taking system is so unbalanced as it is that it practically is broken.

I said all that was necessary. dont like it? GTFO. i wasnt going to repeat what everyone else said, becuz everyone else disagrees here too.

the only "unbalance" here is the way different guilds are structured. instead of f****** up the guilds system just to hinder the abilities of successful guilds, why dont you guys build up your guilds to be like them?! and those who dont want to fix your own guild becuz you are worried about "having a life," then theres no point in wasting you life trying to take towers.

o and joseph, if you would kindly step off my ****, id appreciate it. i dont like being directly raged at about towers by someone ive never heard of.
k?thxbye

D-Vader · 06-13-2012

Posted by Bandit

-Ability to only join 1 guild to enforce loyalty and no guild swapping for guild hats.

-A penalty for leaving your guild, for example you cannot join another one for a few days.

Heck no....

Seriously, a lot of people have multiple guilds they're in for like friends, or hangout guilds or whatever...

Rexx · 06-13-2012

Posted by twilit

omg all these "lets whine n complain about towers" threads needa be deleted.

You're a hypocrite lol. You made MULTIPLE threads complaining and whining about the tower leaderboards, you're in no position to be dictating threads.

Posted by twilit

I said all that was necessary. dont like it? GTFO. i wasnt going to repeat what everyone else said, becuz everyone else disagrees here too.

the only "unbalance" here is the way different guilds are structured. instead of f****** up the guilds system just to hinder the abilities of successful guilds, why dont you guys build up your guilds to be like them?! and those who dont want to fix your own guild becuz you are worried about "having a life," then theres no point in wasting you life trying to take towers.

o and joseph, if you would kindly step off my ****, id appreciate it. i dont like being directly raged at about towers by someone ive never heard of.
k?thxbye

I can see why you've disabled reputation lol

G Fatal · 06-13-2012

As I said to make it more interesting and challenging they should make it so guilds can only have like 10members in at max... Although the towers attcking and defending seem fine to me and not unfair, as zZ FATAL Zz always used to have only like 3/4 players that pk/attcked towers over and over again until the defenders started playing dead/afk so we took and we could always keep for least 2/3hrs without recruiting.not hard just have to put bit of effort in. But I would like to see guilds only having like 10Max. members in it would make towering more fun as low members wouldn't keep forever and big guilds less likely to noob recruit as they would need to kick perms(perms wouldnt want to be kicked all the time) MAKE MAXIMUM MEMBERS IN GUILD 10!

Rexx · 06-13-2012

10 people in a guild? That is stupid, there would be like 2 people online at a time

G Fatal · 06-13-2012

Posted by Rexx

10 people in a guild? That is stupid, there would be like 2 people online at a time

The point of people wanting the tower system changed is cause' guilds was hogging towers 24/7 usually noob recruiting and to give everyone a more equal chance(Ik they should just put effort in to get fort...but this idea makes it more challenging for all.) having 10 Max in guild would stop guilds from noob recruiting and having alot defending at forts making it so the fort may have more changeovers and make it more about skill than just having like 15-25 round flag.

Rezon · 06-13-2012

How to solve all tower related problems:

Remove every tower except castle.

Ask me how this won't work.

DRAN · 06-13-2012

All of this arguing is really unnecessary as it's not like anything well be changed. Sure, some towers may be unbalanced, but none of them are "broken." If it doesn't make Eurocenter money, or involve hats, nothing will be changed. We're allowed to voice our opinions here, but its not ok to be assholes to each other because you have different views.

Skyzer · 06-13-2012

Posted by Rezon

How to solve all tower related problems:

Remove every tower except castle.

Ask me how this won't work.

How will it not work?

monokiller · 06-14-2012

Posted by Bandit

Like Fireen said, you cannot change the tower system without changing the guild system first. I would like to see a system where skill overpowers numbers. Few ideas I had concerning guilds were,

-Ability to only join 1 guild to enforce loyalty and no guild swapping for guild hats.

-A penalty for leaving your guild, for example you cannot join another one for a few days.

-No sub guilds, to do this you could still have allies, but if you follow my 1st bullet they could only join 1 guild so you cannot recruit temporary members.

-Stll think 25 members is a good number to keep the guild max at,

-Add powers to guild members that make it so they cannot actually be kicked instead of just having "Perm" in their name.

Now regarding towers here are a few ideas I have,

-First of all restart the whole leaderboard, at first everyone will see this and think I am an idiot, but if you want a new system you cannot keep these leaderboards as they will be inaccurate. For all the guilds who are on leaderboards atm you can make a special building so people can see that they were in the leaderboards before the new system, also they could be rewarded somehow for their hard work varying on their hours. For example CoM will get something different than a 100 hour guild. Once everyone is satisfied the new system could start.

-Like Joseph stated, I think mutliple points to takeover would offer a bigger challenge then just guarding a small flag with one opening. All the towers should be redone, where they would contain many different entrances, npc traps, and command post. For the command post if you take one over your whole guild could spam there until the defenders recapture it or you takeover the whole fort.

I have more ideas, but cannot remember them atm. Also I have another complete new system for era basing, but since era isn't affiliated with graalians anymore there is no point of posting it.

Move your big fat fingers to the app store and go play era.
Non-Trolling explenation can be found here:

Spoiler

Posted by Bandit

Like Fireen said, you cannot change the tower system without changing the guild system first. I would like to see a system where skill overpowers numbers. Few ideas I had concerning guilds were,

-Ability to only join 1 guild to enforce loyalty and no guild swapping for guild hats.

-A penalty for leaving your guild, for example you cannot join another one for a few days.

-No sub guilds, to do this you could still have allies, but if you follow my 1st bullet they could only join 1 guild so you cannot recruit temporary members.

-Stll think 25 members is a good number to keep the guild max at,

-Add powers to guild members that make it so they cannot actually be kicked instead of just having "Perm" in their name.

Now regarding towers here are a few ideas I have,

-First of all restart the whole leaderboard, at first everyone will see this and think I am an idiot, but if you want a new system you cannot keep these leaderboards as they will be inaccurate. For all the guilds who are on leaderboards atm you can make a special building so people can see that they were in the leaderboards before the new system, also they could be rewarded somehow for their hard work varying on their hours. For example CoM will get something different than a 100 hour guild. Once everyone is satisfied the new system could start.

-Like Joseph stated, I think mutliple points to takeover would offer a bigger challenge then just guarding a small flag with one opening. All the towers should be redone, where they would contain many different entrances, npc traps, and command post. For the command post if you take one over your whole guild could spam there until the defenders recapture it or you takeover the whole fort.

I have more ideas, but cannot remember them atm. Also I have another complete new system for era basing, but since era isn't affiliated with graalians anymore there is no point of posting it.

Move your big fat fingers to the app store and go play era.
Non-Trolling explenation can be found here:

Spoiler

Posted by Rexx

10 people in a guild? That is stupid, there would be like 2 people online at a time

PFFT. 100 people in a guild and flag at 100. Once that is done, make the entire towers pk, rather then just a room. That includes setting the spawn back to the door not 2 rooms down.

P.S. 50% serious...

twilit · 06-14-2012

Posted by Rexx

You're a hypocrite lol. You made MULTIPLE threads complaining and whining about the tower leaderboards, you're in no position to be dictating threads.

pfft thats a different story...

I can see why you've disabled reputation lol

huh? i dont rly use rep pts so i have no clue how i disabled it

Bandit · 06-14-2012

All these kids are fearful of change I see. Just because something works doesn't mean it is the best it can be, do not settle for mediocrity. To most people a few of my ideas sound extreme, but they are my opinion and I am entitled to them. Also regarding Twilit saying that he is sick of all these whining threads regarding towers this is my reply, I don't even play classic anymore, been gone awhile, just check in every now and then. I was just trying to comeup with a new system that benefits hard workers who actually have some sense of skill rather than no lifeing little kids who sext eachother while they easily hold a tower with 20 members. If you did not like my ideas then just stating why you don't like them is alot more affective than starting off your arguement with "your an idiot...". I sure hope to see how you handle things when you growup and find out that people arn't always going to agree with you and the best thing to do is be polite about it and try to come up with a solution.

Skyzer · 06-14-2012

Posted by Bandit

All these kids are fearful of change I see. Just because something works doesn't mean it is the best it can be, do not settle for mediocrity. To most people a few of my ideas sound extreme, but they are my opinion and I am entitled to them. Also regarding Twilit saying that he is sick of all these whining threads regarding towers this is my reply, I don't even play classic anymore, been gone awhile, just check in every now and then. I was just trying to comeup with a new system that benefits hard workers who actually have some sense of skill rather than no lifeing little kids who sext eachother while they easily hold a tower with 20 members. If you did not like my ideas then just stating why you don't like them is alot more affective than starting off your arguement with "your an idiot...". I sure hope to see how you handle things when you growup and find out that people arn't always going to agree with you and the best thing to do is be polite about it and try to come up with a solution.

You're ******ed. You don't know anything. Your ideas are stupid. You don't deserve to live.

Please reply with an angry post.

Bandit · 06-14-2012

Posted by Skyzer

You're ******ed. You don't know anything. Your ideas are stupid. You don't deserve to live.

Please reply with an angry post.

Thanks for showing a perfect example of what not to do.

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Skyzer Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Hampshire, United States Posts: 3,135	You kids need to stop ****ing bitching.

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G Fatal Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: UK Posts: 3,215	As I said to make it more interesting and challenging they should make it so guilds can only have like 10members in at max... Although the towers attcking and defending seem fine to me and not unfair, as zZ FATAL Zz always used to have only like 3/4 players that pk/attcked towers over and over again until the defenders started playing dead/afk so we took and we could always keep for least 2/3hrs without recruiting.not hard just have to put bit of effort in. But I would like to see guilds only having like 10Max. members in it would make towering more fun as low members wouldn't keep forever and big guilds less likely to noob recruit as they would need to kick perms(perms wouldnt want to be kicked all the time) MAKE MAXIMUM MEMBERS IN GUILD 10!

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Rexx User Registered Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,626	10 people in a guild? That is stupid, there would be like 2 people online at a time

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Rezon ENGUARD Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 996	How to solve all tower related problems: Remove every tower except castle. Ask me how this won't work.

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DRAN MOLON LABE Join Date: May 2012 Location: In a tent. Posts: 223	All of this arguing is really unnecessary as it's not like anything well be changed. Sure, some towers may be unbalanced, but none of them are "broken." If it doesn't make Eurocenter money, or involve hats, nothing will be changed. We're allowed to voice our opinions here, but its not ok to be assholes to each other because you have different views.

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Bandit Obsidian Reborn Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 395	All these kids are fearful of change I see. Just because something works doesn't mean it is the best it can be, do not settle for mediocrity. To most people a few of my ideas sound extreme, but they are my opinion and I am entitled to them. Also regarding Twilit saying that he is sick of all these whining threads regarding towers this is my reply, I don't even play classic anymore, been gone awhile, just check in every now and then. I was just trying to comeup with a new system that benefits hard workers who actually have some sense of skill rather than no lifeing little kids who sext eachother while they easily hold a tower with 20 members. If you did not like my ideas then just stating why you don't like them is alot more affective than starting off your arguement with "your an idiot...". I sure hope to see how you handle things when you growup and find out that people arn't always going to agree with you and the best thing to do is be polite about it and try to come up with a solution.