I was banned for 2.1k hours for using an auto clicker.

Zal · 09-12-2015

Hey guys, I was recently banned for using an auto clicker to AFK. I was curious if you think this is a valid reason for being banned?

About a year ago, I started playing graal on Facebook a lot because my old iPod died. Any time I would try to afk, after a few hours my computer would shut itself down or turn off the internet since I wasn't actually using it. In order for me to combat this, I downloaded a free auto clicker program that would click the screen for me, thus keeping me logged in, and preventing the computer from shutting itself off.

After a little while I read on a forum (I think it was graal depot) about farming techniques. One of them said to use an auto clicker, stand next to a bush or grass in your house and have the auto clicker hit that grass over and over while you AFK. I thought that was pretty brilliant so I started doing it. Now take into account this takes WEEKS to get any real amount of wealth. It took a week alone to get one or two grass/bushes to become purple gralats. This wasn't some crazy farming cheat or anything. For me this was just being productive while you AFK, instead of just standing around doing nothing for 10 hours you are actually gaining some gralats, even if it is only a small amount.

Anyway long story short, I had been doing this for a year off and on with no problems, until the other day. I was banned for 2.1k hours for "hacking and cheating." I read the rules on hacking and cheating and its pretty non descriptive of what a hack really is but they won't overturn my ban. I am curious, does anyone else use auto clickers to stay online while they AFK? Do you guys agree with the ban? Thanks for your thoughts and opinions!

Thallen · 09-12-2015

Crono · 09-12-2015

You deserve the ban but maybe not 2.1k hours.

Sardon · 09-12-2015

Posted by Crono

You deserve the ban but maybe not 2.1k hours.

ya 3k

Im going to summon the damned beast known as colin from the abyss

Craftz · 09-12-2015

Lmao there's no point in afking, and you cheated to get free gralats. So yes, you deserve it

slyde · 09-12-2015

Thats like saying to use bots to farm for you to be productive when afking.

Dusty · 09-12-2015

That's roughly 2 months... which is pretty minor considering you were botting and devaluing the entire foundation of how Graal profits. If people don't buy gralat packs, Classic doesn't make money. If everyone botted, Classic would be shut down.

Jarace · 09-12-2015

Automated farming is not allowed. Using an autoclicker to farm for you is "Hacking or Cheating" as you are using an external / third party program to influence or "get ahead" of other players (even if it is very slow.)

There is nothing wrong with using it to keep your computer from falling asleep, but there are easier ways to do this in the control panel on Windows and probably some easier ways for Macs as well.

Neil · 09-12-2015

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Basi · 09-12-2015

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NoName* · 09-12-2015

Posted by Dusty

That's roughly 2 months... which is pretty minor considering you were botting and devaluing the entire foundation of how Graal profits. If people don't buy gralat packs, Classic doesn't make money. If everyone botted, Classic would be shut down.

Show me the rule that says he cant use an *auto clicker*

Zetectic · 09-12-2015

LOL this is a great example.
http://www.graalians.community/forum...ad.php?t=30867
^^^ support this thread pls.

Dusty · 09-12-2015

Posted by NoName*

Show me the rule that says he cant use an *auto clicker*

Show me any of the rules.

NoName* · 09-12-2015

Posted by Jarace

Automated farming is not allowed. Using an autoclicker to farm for you is "Hacking or Cheating" as you are using an external / third party program to influence or "get ahead" of other players (even if it is very slow.)

There is nothing wrong with using it to keep your computer from falling asleep, but there are easier ways to do this in the control panel on Windows and probably some easier ways for Macs as well.

Hacking or cheating? Show me a definition of cheating , so if i use a controller(joystick) in spar is it cheating? First of all they dont even know if he hacked or cheated? (Sorry for my grammar)

Posted by Dusty

Show me any of the rules.

Thats one of the problems there are some rules , but where to see them ? How can he know that its *illegal* to use an auto clicker?

If you are like *new to classic* you dont know any rules ...

Well anyway soon colin will come and say : here is not the place to talk about banns , you dont get banned for no reason /close thread .

Zetectic · 09-12-2015

Posted by NoName*

Hacking or cheating? Show me a definition of cheating , so if i use a controller(joystick) in spar is it cheating?

wait what....?
why do u bring up joystick? isn't that legal to use?

First of all they dont even know if he hacked or cheated? (Sorry for my grammar)

whatever excuse he say won't convince me.

It's like someone thieving foods in stores.
When he got caught he's like telling them, he didn't know it was illegal. he was just hungry, trying to survive.
nonono lol

Well anyway soon colin will come and say : here is not the place to talk about banns , you dont get banned for no reason /close thread .

i would be sad if colin deleted this thread. cus this thread is just a perfect example that supports my other thread about the graal rules. lol
but i agree, newer players are clueless about any other rules. EXCLUDING this one. it's pretty obvious, botting is banned in almost every game.

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Zal Registered User Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: USA Posts: 31	I was banned for 2.1k hours for using an auto clicker. Hey guys, I was recently banned for using an auto clicker to AFK. I was curious if you think this is a valid reason for being banned? About a year ago, I started playing graal on Facebook a lot because my old iPod died. Any time I would try to afk, after a few hours my computer would shut itself down or turn off the internet since I wasn't actually using it. In order for me to combat this, I downloaded a free auto clicker program that would click the screen for me, thus keeping me logged in, and preventing the computer from shutting itself off. After a little while I read on a forum (I think it was graal depot) about farming techniques. One of them said to use an auto clicker, stand next to a bush or grass in your house and have the auto clicker hit that grass over and over while you AFK. I thought that was pretty brilliant so I started doing it. Now take into account this takes WEEKS to get any real amount of wealth. It took a week alone to get one or two grass/bushes to become purple gralats. This wasn't some crazy farming cheat or anything. For me this was just being productive while you AFK, instead of just standing around doing nothing for 10 hours you are actually gaining some gralats, even if it is only a small amount. Anyway long story short, I had been doing this for a year off and on with no problems, until the other day. I was banned for 2.1k hours for "hacking and cheating." I read the rules on hacking and cheating and its pretty non descriptive of what a hack really is but they won't overturn my ban. I am curious, does anyone else use auto clickers to stay online while they AFK? Do you guys agree with the ban? Thanks for your thoughts and opinions!

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Thallen Enguard & Alumni Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 5,773

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Crono :pluffy: Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 5,944	You deserve the ban but maybe not 2.1k hours.

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Craftz New Age Legacy Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Graal Posts: 1,633	Lmao there's no point in afking, and you cheated to get free gralats. So yes, you deserve it

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slyde Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 494	Thats like saying to use bots to farm for you to be productive when afking.

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Dusty Should be fixed. Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,359	That's roughly 2 months... which is pretty minor considering you were botting and devaluing the entire foundation of how Graal profits. If people don't buy gralat packs, Classic doesn't make money. If everyone botted, Classic would be shut down.

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Jarace Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 724	Automated farming is not allowed. Using an autoclicker to farm for you is "Hacking or Cheating" as you are using an external / third party program to influence or "get ahead" of other players (even if it is very slow.) There is nothing wrong with using it to keep your computer from falling asleep, but there are easier ways to do this in the control panel on Windows and probably some easier ways for Macs as well.

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Basi Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United States Posts: 707	http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/661/750/a47.gif (Unsupported image host)

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Zetectic Bloodvayne Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,087	LOL this is a great example. http://www.graalians.community/forum...ad.php?t=30867 ^^^ support this thread pls.