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my nama jeff ✔️
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,252
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Two players have won chance before, not a first - there are usually three winners for trivia, two for hide and seek too. I was honestly calling out random letters each time and we somehow managed winning so I have no idea how it could've been rigged as I shouted out the letters before they were even selected. I was first in the warper as I used my warp ring which coincidently happened to be right next to it...I also was on my Zanza tag for a few hours before the event was hosted. |
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Enguard & Alumni
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 5,773
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That's your word, not mine: I just thought I'd post to let people know that every single player online in an "admin guild" made it into an event, two of them were lucky enough to make it to the end, and the host (who happens to be in that same guild) chose to give the hat to both of them instead of pick an actual winner… and the reasoning is apparently "because the number of winners is at the host's discretion." I've personally never seen two winners in Chance. So, people can form their own opinions on that situation, I'm just posting what I just saw. |
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Milo
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 240
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As elaboration on my reply, yes, it is pretty unusual to have two winners and there is usually only one. However, I do believe that staff have their own unique differences in hosting and two winners were dianthus himself may or may not have intended so from the start. Of course, this is my opinion and I can see how it may seem like a form of biasness, but I know for certain that I had not given anyone a higher advantage over others and I firmly believe that dianthus hadn't either May I add on once again that NightOwls is in no form an "Admin guild". As mentioned before, the guild only seems so as the people in it are players I've met after they became staff. In no way have I ever nor do I ever intend to give anyone any form of advantage whether anyone chooses to believe it or not. |
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Enguard & Alumni
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 5,773
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Hey, I'm just posting facts. 2500 people online, 50 members to an event warper, 100% of NightOwls make it into the warper, luckily enough two make it to the final in Chance (which, as I said, is an actual coincidence), and the NightOwls host makes an on-the-fly decision that both of them "win." It's not the first questionable event I've seen and it won't be the last. Just thought it'd be nice to post it here since we had that discussion about how healthy and awesome admin guilds are for the game! |
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of Orange
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 826
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Sorry Milo but you have to understand why I find it hilarious that you think saying "there will be an investigation" actually means anything at this point. There's just no real way to prove anything happened or didn't happen. It just looks waaaaay too coincidental for it to have happened the way it did without any bias. I personally don't think you did anything weird here, but I can't hold the GP who doesn't know that the command to open the door in chance is "/open" to the same standard. Either way, being extremely defensive about it isn't really earning you any points here. Also going to emphasize this since people are clearly just choosing not to read it, or something:
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Australia
Posts: 137
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Okay, so I thought I'd do a quick rundown of the situation below with the key points being made. The Statistics
But when you look at this from another perspective, has this happened regularly? I haven't seen any other posts complaining about events being biased towards the admin's guild neither have I seen any posts to suggest that this has happened before. If what Howl said is correct in him finding the event warper, then it seems just as likely that he and his guild could all have gone to the same place and all participated in the event, especially if he was one of the first ones there. As Milo said regarding the location of the warper; "the hint given was pretty easy and common knowledge too. Whether or not it may seem believable, I do believe that someone will look into this and prove so. " The 2 Winners
Final thoughts I saw Milo's original post and I don't think she's done anything wrong. She made a point that you are somewhat warping the facts and I do agree with her. This is a one off situation. She's even being reasonable enough to being open to the idea of this situation being looked at and investigated. I really don't think anything suspicious happened here. A one off instance of people winning who are in the same guild doesn't really go to prove that there's admins secretly rigging events. I think at the end of the day you're looking too much into a situation that was purely luck that they happened to win. Yes, it is unusual for 2 winners, but nobody has kicked up a fuss about it in the past. Maybe rules could be put into place regarding this such as announcing there will be 2 winners beforehand? It sucks that you didn't win a fancy hat that you could show off, but hey - who knows? maybe next time you might win |
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Banned
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,173
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Obviously there has never been fuss about 2 people winning before since we were never even aware it was allowed or that it happened at all rip So it does come down to favouritism Easy fix is not giving out 2 prizes ever again since it's unfair for anyone else that has gotten/will get a second place in any other event |