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imSupah 02-02-2013 09:25 PM

What do you think of the new guns?
 
Sup everyone. So as we all know, the new guns came out. Some say they're a waste of money while others said it's worth it. So what do you think? Vote in the poll above and discuss.

BabyGhost 02-03-2013 01:56 AM

Based on seeing how they perform, their performance doesn't match up to the price that they are currently at. They aren't horrible guns. Just a bit too expensive for their performance. You can compare them to cheaper guns like glock or m16.

T-10a 02-03-2013 02:10 AM

Yeah, greed is getting the better of Era. Seriously? A gun that's as good as a gun that used to be 4.5k and is now 55k is 65, because skins? :facepalm. Also, a sawed off version of a 2.5k gun for 90k and does 9 damage. roflmao.

fsh 02-03-2013 02:27 AM

they are okay, i enjoy the little silver pistol

T-10a 02-03-2013 02:36 AM

That's the cheapest one there lol. I don't mind the pistols, reminds me of dual elites from Counterstrike.

Ghettoicedtea 02-03-2013 02:49 AM

The guns are way to damn overpriced. But then yet again era overprices EVERYTHING

Lemon.png 02-03-2013 03:09 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 291796)
The guns are way to damn overpriced. But then yet again era overprices EVERYTHING

All companies need a way of making more money. @Ghetto

Chris Zephlyn 02-03-2013 04:00 AM

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Posted by fsh (Post 291777)
they are okay, i enjoy the little silver pistol


Ghettoicedtea 02-03-2013 04:23 AM

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Posted by Lemon.png (Post 291809)
All companies need a way of making more money. @Ghetto

Yea i know this. But era isnt a company. Its more of a slave dividsion imo. Admins get payed a slave wage to do a lot of stuff. But then yet again 90% of the time they dont do jackcrap.

imSupah 02-03-2013 06:38 AM

O.o. Dang, can you guys tell me if they have any good ones? Im at 60k and I want to try one at least.

T-10a 02-03-2013 07:02 AM

Don't bother. Most guns these days with the exception of the obvious are a waste of money.

Billy 02-03-2013 07:52 AM

I like sawed AK and AB8,the shotty is good in base,kap40 is good in spar.

poorface 02-03-2013 12:39 PM

The k180's are really good: low freeze and very fast.

Kenny* 02-03-2013 01:08 PM

the only gun that is worth it are the k180s as they are pretty fast with hardly any freeze but i dont think they are work 15k each maybe 10k?

Ghettoicedtea 02-03-2013 02:27 PM

Or how about 5.5k like all other handguns

imSupah 02-04-2013 12:58 AM

What i wanna know is how they can copy bo2 guns :/ oh well

Yogy* 02-04-2013 01:10 AM

Why is there a gun that sounds like a souizen? Also has no freeze and 9 damage not sure if its same speed but still :/ dont make a souizen copy

Ghettoicedtea 02-04-2013 01:12 AM

Idk why does the m3 sound like shipkia?

Talon 02-04-2013 06:23 AM

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Posted by iAmSupah (Post 292552)
What i wanna know is how they can copy bo2 guns :/ oh well

Because Treyarch didn't create and copyright the guns they use.

Anyway, I was thinking about getting back into this game for whatever reason, and I wanted to know what the guns are like - particularly the M8A1, AB8, and K180 - in comparison to the similarly priced M4, Tachi Scorp, Sten, etc. Enlighten me.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 02-04-2013 06:48 AM

M8a1 is good but the gani and sound sucks, k180s are nice, ab8 is a souizen copy which is annoying, and ak47 is an op spar gun, also treyarch kinda did create the guns since they may be based on rl guns, but arent the same

Talon 02-04-2013 06:58 AM

How does the sleep/freeze of the M8A1 and AB8 compare to that of the M4?

DaScientist 02-04-2013 11:37 AM

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Posted by Yogy* (Post 292561)
Why is there a gun that sounds like a souizen? Also has no freeze and 9 damage not sure if its same speed but still :/ dont make a souizen copy

If you're referring to the AB8,then no,it's not really similar to Souzien.It has quite a slower rate of fire like Sten.

Infernus Lapse 02-04-2013 12:13 PM

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Posted by iAmSupah (Post 292552)
What i wanna know is how they can copy bo2 guns :/ oh well


What people,dont realize is Call of Duty uses REAL types of guns. Theyre all used irl, most were created before the franchise. Like the P90? That was made in the 90's for iraq personal defense. AA-12? Made by the russian military, popularized by FPSRussia. All cod guns are real, people arent copying them. Cod is copying real life.

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 292705)
M8a1 is good but the gani and sound sucks, k180s are nice, ab8 is a souizen copy which is annoying, and ak47 is an op spar gun, also treyarch kinda did create the guns since they may be based on rl guns, but arent the same

The only thing they modified was the firing rates of some of em and they lessened the recoil alot.

RedBoy786* 02-04-2013 01:38 PM

So the ray gun in zombies is real?

Anyone anyone?
nvm bad joke *walks away*

Talon 02-04-2013 05:48 PM

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Posted by Talon (Post 292710)
How does the sleep/freeze of the M8A1 and AB8 compare to that of the M4?


Talon 02-04-2013 09:57 PM

I still want to know ):

If anyone has specific stats, that would be great.

RedBoy786* 02-04-2013 10:31 PM

Well, I don't own any of the guns but I've tested them before and been in combat in spar against them.

AB8 - I like calling it the mini Souzien. Fast gun, fast reload, hardly any freeze, clip size of 16, fires straight bullets (100% accuracy), automatic, 15 changeable camos. I would personally say its a very good gun to buy mainly because of its very low freeze when fired which I can pretty much assure is lower than the M4. It is a deadly gun in spar and it doesn't have any drawbacks APART from the fact it's still af 8 damage even when it's at 'perfect condition'.

Don't know much about the M8A1, sorry. :(

:)

Talon 02-04-2013 10:35 PM

Thanks, I'll look in to getting it.

poorface 02-04-2013 10:41 PM

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Posted by Infernus Lapse (Post 292807)
What people,dont realize is Call of Duty uses REAL types of guns. Theyre all used irl, most were created before the franchise. Like the P90? That was made in the 90's for iraq personal defense. AA-12? Made by the russian military, popularized by FPSRussia. All cod guns are real, people arent copying them. Cod is copying real life.



The only thing they modified was the firing rates of some of em and they lessened the recoil alot.

Like that wall piercing gun from the blops 2 story mode? I'm kidding ;)

Meph's vanished! We don't have access to stats and the guns won't be modified until he's found!

Sup3rn00b 02-04-2013 11:21 PM

So, I told my friend about how graal is using BO2 guns. he then goes on about how era is a crappy game. He wants to "unlike" it too

Whitewolf 02-05-2013 12:37 AM

The guns suck. They always have and they never really improve. Costs for guns are out of control as well. iEra uses the guns to make up the profits lost by players leaving. A lot of other servers make items that took a very long time but dont cost much so if anything, iEra can reconsider their prices.

5hift 02-05-2013 12:55 AM

Sawed ak47 and shotgun? Come on guys, could you really think of something better? In reality a sawed ak47 would probably be worse that a regular ak47. But of course, this is graal, and graal says reality can go kill itself. and that one pistol that costs 15000 gralats, costs the same as the m16 and is 20 worse than the m16, what a true waste of money. the only gun i think is worth trying to buy is the ab8. but even that would take a lifetime of collecting trash and mushrooms to reach the cost. i only beg of you to cut the price to AT LEAST half the original price for all of them.

Yours Truly-5hifter

poorface 02-05-2013 12:56 AM

The k180's are pretty good, I don't know what you're talking about

Infernus Lapse 02-05-2013 12:58 AM

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Posted by 5hifter (Post 293179)
Sawed ak47 and shotgun? Come on guys, could you really think of something better? In reality a sawed ak47 would probably be worse that a regular ak47. But of course, this is graal, and graal says reality can go kill itself. and that one pistol that costs 15000 gralats, costs the same as the m16 and is 20 worse than the m16, what a true waste of money. the only gun i think is worth trying to buy is the ab8. but even that would take a lifetime of collecting trash and mushrooms to reach the cost. i only beg of you to cut the price to AT LEAST half the original price for all of them.

Yours Truly-5hifter

20 what worse than the m16?

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Posted by Whitewolf (Post 293163)
The guns suck. They always have and they never really improve. Costs for guns are out of control as well. iEra uses the guns to make up the profits lost by players leaving. A lot of other servers make items that took a very long time but dont cost much so if anything, iEra can reconsider their prices.

Ladies and gentlemen, our new forums hater/idiot.

Ghettoicedtea 02-05-2013 01:25 AM

Dat dr who gif

hes actually right you know

Lemon.png 02-05-2013 03:30 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 291885)
Yea i know this. But era isnt a company. Its more of a slave dividsion imo. Admins get payed a slave wage to do a lot of stuff. But then yet again 90% of the time they dont do jackcrap.

You have a point. @Ghetto

Sup3rn00b 02-05-2013 03:32 AM

Can someone post the sawed off shotgun reload time?

Talon 02-05-2013 07:01 AM

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Posted by RedBoy786* (Post 293079)
Well, I don't own any of the guns but I've tested them before and been in combat in spar against them.

AB8 - I like calling it the mini Souzien. Fast gun, fast reload, hardly any freeze, clip size of 16, fires straight bullets (100% accuracy), automatic, 15 changeable camos. I would personally say its a very good gun to buy mainly because of its very low freeze when fired which I can pretty much assure is lower than the M4. It is a deadly gun in spar and it doesn't have any drawbacks APART from the fact it's still af 8 damage even when it's at 'perfect condition'.

Don't know much about the M8A1, sorry. :(

:)

Anyone else want to weigh in before I drop on this gun? Don't want to be too impulsive lol

Mainly looking for comparisons between the AB8/M8A1/PBPAR against the M4 as a reference point. Mainly looking for differences in sleep and freeze, don't care too much about spread and damage.

Era News 02-05-2013 07:20 AM

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Posted by Talon (Post 293409)

Anyone else want to weigh in before I drop on this gun? Don't want to be too impulsive lol

Mainly looking for comparisons between the AB8/M8A1/PBPAR against the M4 as a reference point. Mainly looking for differences in sleep and freeze, don't care too much about spread and damage.

Get a BAR

Sabur 02-05-2013 08:20 AM

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Posted by Era News (Post 293410)
Get a BAR

http://i.imgur.com/l4B5aU1.png

Talon 02-05-2013 02:27 PM

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Posted by Era News (Post 293410)
Get a BAR

Like I said, sleep and freeze are the most important factors to me, not damage. And I don't like the prospect of dropping $75 on a virtual gun.

K!LLA KEV 02-05-2013 03:58 PM

i havent bought one but not many are pleased with them lol nothing i would choose over a BAR or M4.

Talon 02-05-2013 04:38 PM

Picked up the AB8, and it's almos exactly the same as the Sten but with a lower clip, lower fire rate, and lower damage. I really don't see why this is priced identically to the Sten when it is in every way inferior. And it's not similarly priced because of the customization options - that's bull****. I shouldn't have to pay extra for a gun to pay extra for customization.

imSupah 02-05-2013 10:46 PM

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Posted by Talon (Post 293601)
Picked up the AB8, and it's almos exactly the same as the Sten but with a lower clip, lower fire rate, and lower damage. I really don't see why this is priced identically to the Sten when it is in every way inferior. And it's not similarly priced because of the customization options - that's bull****. I shouldn't have to pay extra for a gun to pay extra for customization.

So basically if you have Sten, don't bother getting AP8? And Talon update your gun guide. :P

T-10a 02-06-2013 05:02 AM

Yeah, and the Sten is overpriced at that much.

Why admins? So many overpriced things it makes it look like you WANT us to buy gralat packs. Price isn't a balancing factor anymore, people will just buy the weapons from iTunes/their mum's credit card.

Talon 02-06-2013 05:12 AM

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Posted by iAmSupah (Post 293914)
So basically if you have Sten, don't bother getting AP8? And Talon update your gun guide. :P

Pretty much. The AB8 is worse than the Sten in every aspect. The Sten outclasses it completely - hands down, no protest. There is statistically nothing the AB8 has over the Sten. Such an awful gun for the price, honestly.

And I might update my gun guide, but there's a lot of guns out there for me to review and I simply don't have enough money/time to get all of them. I'll update it a little right now.

imSupah 02-06-2013 11:36 AM

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Posted by Talon (Post 294058)

Pretty much. The AB8 is worse than the Sten in every aspect. The Sten outclasses it completely - hands down, no protest. There is statistically nothing the AB8 has over the Sten. Such an awful gun for the price, honestly.

And I might update my gun guide, but there's a lot of guns out there for me to review and I simply don't have enough money/time to get all of them. I'll update it a little right now.

Thanks, made me save 65k! I wasn't so sure to get it. I just got the KP's instead...But what do you other guys think?

blom98 02-06-2013 11:54 AM

Revive of the ak! Heil ak!

Talon 02-06-2013 03:02 PM

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Posted by iAmSupah (Post 294141)
Thanks, made me save 65k! I wasn't so sure to get it. I just got the KP's instead...But what do you other guys think?

Wish I could have saved myself 65k.

Ghettoicedtea 02-06-2013 03:54 PM

Never planned on getting onw. Whew


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